New Director at UP Steam Shop

Sad.  If this were a volunteer group, this attitude and stance would be the death knell.  Been in several groups were I just walked away when a new "leader" with a chip on the shoulder and an "addenda" took over.  Didn't need the infighting, bickering and cronyism that came with it...

Just sayin.

 

Ah-ha, so it wasn't even Steve Lee's doing; I had the impression (passed on by a Dickens fan, and bearing in mind that I thought if Mr. Lee fired anybody there was likely a very good reason) that SL had fired him, when it was actually a complaint through other channels. This makes a lot of sense given his other actions.

They say there are two sides to every story, sounds like this one has at least 3-4 and in reality the real truth will never be known as to the differences between the two.

Not quite Mr. flyer. I was there when the various union complaints took place, thus the current manager was "sent back" to his union Engineer's pool job in Denver. Mr. Lee was caught between the various union reps, the UP Labor Relations Dept., and his own upper management officials. Even after he was "removed" from the full time Steam Crew, he was still called upon to be an additional Engineer for lengthy trips, and I still wound up firing for him when ever he relieved Steve Lee or Lynn Nystrom.

 

Children, children, if you can't play nice in the sandbox and share, I'll have to send you to your rooms without supper....

HW,

 

I was thinking more of the harassment cases being the other unknowns, especially on this forum as they haven't been mentioned in any detail that I can remember, unless I have missed them

Those are two of the pending lawsuits against the UP, specifically naming the current manager. The details of the court filings have been published in the Cheyenne newspaper, way back last year.

The lawsuits are a matter of public record. You can download them for off-line reading if you wish.

 

Google is your friend...

Originally Posted by Ted Hikel:

 

It has been stated on the web that 3985 has had its superheater elements removed and scrapped and that critical diesel parts unique the DDA40X have also been scrapped.  Fabricating new superheater elements will be expensive.  Fabricating unique diesel parts is likely cost prohibitive.  If either has happened and there is no good, documented reason that might also result in some interesting comments from the new director to Omaha.

 

Regarding the superheater elements, could the elements from the other Challenger #3977 be used to replace the the originals in the 3985?

 

In a similar vein could the other surviving DDA40X diesels be used to replace the special parts from the 6936?

 

Stuart

 

Revenge will ALWAYS leave a path of destruction.

Have the E9s been affected by this mess as well?

 

I don't care to do that.

Found it, read it, well most of it as the picture was pretty clear and very repetitive and quite honestly was a disgraceful account of someone that should be locked up sooner than later.

 

With such a set of accounts by the plaintiff and other people why is he not currently suspended from duties until the court case as it still leaves him in a position to commit similar attrocities to current employees?

 

Hope it doesn't end the steam program.

It has definitely set the steam program back. If you look at the restoration of N&W 611 and how much they have accomplished since its move( and this all from donations and volunteers), I would think with the resources available to UP anything is possible.

 

Doug  

 

 

He can't "retire" as he doesn't have enough time, nor is he old enough.

I'm still trying to find the part in the document that says a "disgruntled former employee made the whole thing up".

ROTFL!

Let me just say this about positions of responsibility and leadership in modern-day railroading.  To survive (and certainly, if you want to advance) you must:

• form alliances with others, build a team which includes your employees and other departments.  Then you must nurture your team and your associated partners.
• work congenially with others, including your subordinates.  Lead others, instead of driving them.
• give credit for what goes right to your team. When things go wrong, instead of punishing some subordinate, work with others to improve processes, practices, and behaviors, which will get better results.
• Strictly observe good personal behavior in regard to the Company's discrimination and harassment rules, and require it without exception from your team.

True, there is still a small number of rogue managers who manage by fear and intimidation, but, except for their personal boot-lickers, everyone else on the railroad despises them and awaits their demise.

VERY well said, Tom.

this can't move fast enough for me.  i would like to live long enough to see UP steam in action, but at the pace of the last couple of years that was not gonna happen.

The sooner the better I have 6 year old who really wants to see the Big Boy working. 

 

I find this whole situation very puzzling. Having worked for a large US corporation in the past. This sort of thing would just not be tolerated. 

 

Most large companies have policies that abuse of staff be it verbal, physical or mental will

not be tolerated at all. And will result in disciplinary action.

 

Nick 

Many of us would like to live long enough to see all 3 steamers run but mainly 844.  4014 looks so much like 3985 that it will not be that great of a deal when and if it runs again.  If 3985 is in the best shape get it running first. 

The fact that 611 will be in steam soon and 261 here in MN is good enough big steam for me.  My favorite type of engine is a 4-8-4 and 844, 261 and 611 all meet that requirement and I have all 3 on my layout along with 4020 and 3989 also, so I can play with all.

I'm looking forward to the day threads like these are no longer seen on any forum and only good news/progress are reported.

What?  You really mean that the announcement of the "New Director" of the Cheyenne Steam Shop/Program really isn't progress and positive news?

A big "second the motion" to superwarp1!!!

That is THE only good news to come from Cheyenne in a looong time.  Positive things are coming for sure.

You mis-understand what I'm implying.  

 

While it's good news, the reasons why it was needed to be made are not, some listed in this very thread, which for me at least are sick to my stomach on what's going on at UP. Hoping all the BS is behind us and going forward only good news/progress to report.