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I wonder how well these will pull? Are they going to be a small switchers equal with weight added, or will they have the staying power of a weak handcar/trolley and cook motors if you pull anything substantial?

Maybe double/triple headed?

  Is there maybe something like an unpowered "Hump-T/Dummy -T" car ? ( )

The concept might allow a very small loco, or odd shaped locos (compressed air/mine locos, a low calf unit, etc,) with a very small or no motor in the loco/tender, being pushed along.

WOO HOO! Another WbB product that will see maybe two runs then get discontinued and you'll have no chance of getting parts for. Just what we all want!

I hate to be the turd in the punch bowl, but I gotta call it like I see it. For those of you that want it, nothing personal, I hope you all really enjoy it.

@Mike D posted:

WOO HOO! Another WbB product that will see maybe two runs then get discontinued and you'll have no chance of getting parts for. Just what we all want!

I hate to be the turd in the punch bowl, but I gotta call it like I see it. For those of you that want it, nothing personal, I hope you all really enjoy it.

Agree 100%.  It’s a cute novelty and all, but the Williams line has so much potential that’s being ignored by Bachmann.  Look at their GP30- a locomotive that was owned by many railroads over the years, yet was offered in what, 6 paint schemes?  I would have bought a Conrail version in a heartbeat. 

Oh well.

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@rplst8 posted:

I have to be honest, when I saw that mentioned on the virtual train show a few weeks back my first thought was.  What? Why? Is this a joke?

 

I still feel that way.

 

Agreed. Seems like they just took the easiest design of another item they already produce in other scales. 

Hopefully WBB cancels this item for their own good. If not I expect we’ll see these at blow out prices. It’s like the Peter Witt Trolley - $229 retail price but being given away at $89. Where’s the margin in that? 

@Mike D posted:

WOO HOO! Another WbB product that will see maybe two runs then get discontinued and you'll have no chance of getting parts for. Just what we all want!

I hate to be the turd in the punch bowl, but I gotta call it like I see it. For those of you that want it, nothing personal, I hope you all really enjoy it.

Couldn't agree more.  And mind you, this is the only new product from them in O gauge.  I don't understand their thought process, not with the tooling they have at their disposal and so many road names they could be producing.  If they're not making money on O gauge and all they can offer is an egg, the decent thing to do would be for them to simply announce they're giving up on Williams.

IMO, part of the problem with much of the WBB stuff is the MSRP.  I've bought several of their engines from Trainworld, sometimes at York and sometimes online. and been very happy with them.  Getting a conventional diesel for around $150 or a steamer for +/- $250 is a great deal for a runner, especially for taking to train shows.  When they announce MSRP that's 75% of a Lionel or MTH engine (with more detail and command control), it kills the interest.   

@Adriatic posted:

I wonder how well these will pull? Are they going to be a small switchers equal with weight added, or will they have the staying power of a weak handcar/trolley and cook motors if you pull anything substantial?

Maybe double/triple headed?

  Is there maybe something like an unpowered "Hump-T/Dummy -T" car ? ( )

The concept might allow a very small loco, or odd shaped locos (compressed air/mine locos, a low calf unit, etc,) with a very small or no motor in the loco/tender, being pushed along.

My Christmas one came today. Yes it's just a handcar/trolley motor. It is cute though. Nice decorations and paint job. I'd say it's a change from watching a trolley going around. It has a cheesey   hook on one end and the instructions say  " for future " They were 16 months late with this one, so I'm not holding my breath.

All in all I'm happy with it. Though the price point is high for what it is.

@RadioRon posted:

BTW, the Bachmann/Williams website says it has directional headlights and operating marker lights.  No interior illumination, apparently.   Street price from Mario's Trains, for example, is $147.

All I am getting is illumination. Then again my E unit isn't working. The instructions also mention true blast. I don't see it in the parts breakdown either. sounds like there was some communication or translation problems going on here. Not sure. I did run it on Super Streets D-16 and D-21 curves and it's just fine...

@Stoshu posted:

All I am getting is illumination.  The instructions also mention true blast.  Not sure. I did run it on Super Streets D-16 and D-21 curves and it's just fine...

TrueBlast is Williams' sound system... which I am virtually certain the eggliner doesn't have.  As for illumination, I referenced the fact that it has head & marker lights, but not likely interior illumination.... is that, in fact, the case?

@RadioRon posted:

TrueBlast is Williams' sound system... which I am virtually certain the eggliner doesn't have.  As for illumination, I referenced the fact that it has head & marker lights, but not likely interior illumination.... is that, in fact, the case?

  Just looked at the parts diagram that came with the unit. It does not show any kind of bulb or LED. I am assuming the there is an LED on the reversing unit. So no directional lighting just one big light on the inside.

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