New Legacy GP30

I ordered their Reading and Northern maroon GP30!!! I hope to get the invoice soon..

Just received a message that that my copy of the Santa Fe GP30 is on the way.

WBC - Love to hear your thoughts on this engine when you get it - also a few pics would be great 👍🏼🚂

Thanks

Joe S

@WBC posted:

Just received a message that that my copy of the Santa Fe GP30 is on the way.

Where is your GP30 coming from?

My Alaska GP30 shipped from CharlesRo yesterday and arrives Saturday.

My Santa Fe's were charged from Ro on Wednesday. Have not received notice that they have shipped yet.

@dorfj2 posted:

WBC - Love to hear your thoughts on this engine when you get it - also a few pics would be great 👍🏼🚂

Thanks

Joe S

@jrose609 posted:

Where is your GP30 coming from?

Across the Universe

So it is going to be quite some time before it gets here. You'll probably have pics from other sources before mine gets to me.  However, I expect it to be quite similar (except the paint scheme) to the freight bonnet GP30 from about a decade ago or so.

My Santa Fe's showed up from RO today. Here are some quick indoor pictures - Looks the same colors as Lionel's SD40's and SD45's if you have those.

I received my Reading and Northern from Gryzboski. Loco is great looking, it is a little wobbly, which I hope works itself out. But we will see. Ill post pictures of it later.

Here is the Conrail unit. Wish the yellow was darker. I do like the new packaging though.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=b8...M&feature=shared

toddstrick,

I really like the unit. Looks like a good candidate for weathering which will help with the color issue. This is off topic, but it looks like you have nice layout in the background. Have you posted photos of it anywhere on the forum?

Dave

I picked up a Grzyboski special run Reading & Northern GP30 the other day. Looks great… sounds great… runs great!!!

The new dress blue GP30 joins  freight bonnet from about a decade ago in multiple units. The mu's are part of a consist of tank cars.

The yellow is a bit brighter and the blue a bit richer than the bonnet but they look good together. There are a couple of small spots where box rub wore through the yellow and a little bit of blue can be seen.

@toddstrick posted:

Here is the Conrail unit. Wish the yellow was darker. I do like the new packaging though.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=b8...M&feature=shared

Conrail GP30 #2170 ex-Reading is shown on this site:

https://www.prrho.com/conrail.html.

It appears that Lionel, to their credit on this one, got it pretty darn close.

Glad to learn that you guys seem to like Lionel's new Legacy GP 30s. Just by comparison, I bought a new Lionel Legacy GP30 exactly 12 years ago. It retailed for $499, but I got it from Trainworld for $461. Out of curiosity, I compared the features list of both engines (Lionel 6-28385 to the new Lionel 2433151) and the features are identical with the exception of the new one having Bluetooth, Voice Control, and the IR transmitter for sensor track.

I would never use any of these new features and my 12 year old SF GP30 continues to run very well with no problems and most parts for it still available. I just thought it interesting to compare a couple of the same Lionel engines 12 years apart and now a hundred dollars more ($599) for those three new features. Not a terrible price increase I guess, for over a 12 year period. Could've been worse, so enjoy your new engines. 😉

@Yellowstone Special posted:

Glad to learn that you guys seem to like Lionel's new Legacy GP 30s. Just by comparison, I bought a new Lionel Legacy GP30 exactly 12 years ago. It retailed for $499, but I got it from Trainworld for $461. Out of curiosity, I compared the features list of both engines (Lionel 6-28385 to the new Lionel 2433151) and the features are identical with the exception of the new one having Bluetooth, Voice Control, and the IR transmitter for sensor track.

I would never use any of these new features and my 12 year old SF GP30 continues to run very well with no problems and most parts for it still available. I just thought it interesting to compare a couple of the same Lionel engines 12 years apart and now a hundred dollars more ($599) for those three new features. Not a terrible price increase I guess, for over a 12 year period. Could've been worse, so enjoy your new engines. 😉

True, the feature set are identical.  The sounds (more like sound balance) are a bit different.  However, if that freight bonnet was made today it would probably have a strobe as when then GP30's were rebuilt with the bonnet paint job they were equipped with strobes.

Mine was $509 shipped from preorder pricing.

I got my GP 30’s from Nicholas Smith yesterday, awesome set!

https://youtube.com/shorts/ab9...?si=RfKgDRvxF5ER2zMf

@toddstrick posted:

Here is the Conrail unit. Wish the yellow was darker. I do like the new packaging though.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=b8...M&feature=shared

That paint seems about right for a Conrail "patch job".

@Yellowstone Special posted:

I would never use any of these new features and my 12 year old SF GP30 continues to run very well with no problems and most parts for it still available. I just thought it interesting to compare a couple of the same Lionel engines 12 years apart and now a hundred dollars more ($599) for those three new features. Not a terrible price increase I guess, for over a 12 year period. Could've been worse, so enjoy your new engines. 😉

Fwiw, it's appears, on the new one. Lionel fixed the rear steps that were out of alignment on the 2011 release.

Wow, Rick! You're right and that's a good thing. Thanks for pointing it out.

@RickO posted:

Fwiw, it's appears, on the new one. Lionel fixed the rear steps that were out of alignment on the 2011 release.

@Yellowstone Special posted:

Wow, Rick! You're right and that's a good thing. Thanks for pointing it out.

I remember the misalignment of the rear pilot of the GP30 production run 12 years ago. I emailed Lionel about it and sent high resolution photos. I received an email back saying that the photos were too small for them to see the problem. Not really believing them (obviously they knew as they redesigned the pilot), I took matters into my own hand. I "fixed" mine a long time ago https://ogrforum.com/...gp-30-rear-pilot-fix.

@WBC posted:

I remember the misalignment of the rear pilot of the GP30 production run 12 years ago. I emailed Lionel about it and sent high resolution photos. I received an email back saying that the photos were too small for them to see the problem. Not really believing them (obviously they knew as they redesigned the pilot), I took matters into my own hand. I "fixed" mine a long time ago https://ogrforum.com/...gp-30-rear-pilot-fix.

@WBC: It was good of you to inform Lionel of that blatant design/manufacturing error back then and it’s too bad they didn’t act on it until 12 years later. Nice work on your fix.

I have an original Legacy GP30 that had the same misaligned steps. The assembled trucks are not identical. I switched the trucks and the alignment was perfect. May want to give it a try.

@romiller49 posted:

I have an original Legacy GP30 that had the same misaligned steps. The assembled trucks are not identical. I switched the trucks and the alignment was perfect. May want to give it a try.

Thanks, Rod.