Trainworld and a few others are showing in-stock as of today. Anyone received theirs yet? Would love to see some pictures and video, especially of the Chessie and NS.
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@Catonsville Central Railway posted:Trainworld and a few others are showing in-stock as of today. Anyone received theirs yet? Would love to see some pictures and video, especially of the Chessie and NS.
Get mine from Ro tomorrow
@tom21pa posted:Get mine from Ro tomorrow
I have a set of B&O Chessies on order with Ro. When did they email you to let you know yours were on the way?
Thanks!
I just got mine today from Ro. I ordered all of the Rio Grande ones
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@Norman R posted:I have a set of B&O Chessies on order with Ro. When did they email you to let you know yours were on the way?
Thanks!
Yesterday I got the notification, says may 3rd by 7pm on ups tracking
@tom21pa posted:Yesterday I got the notification, says may 3rd by 7pm on ups tracking
Thanks. I'll be on the lookout now for when my notice comes through.
The kinematic pilots look great on these, hope to see them add them onto more of their models in the future
Heres the reading and northern 
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Yikes! 
That center axle on the front truck should be directly under the cab window. Trucks and fuel tank should all have symmetrical spacing. The huge gap between the front truck and pilot that makes it looks like the nose is hanging off in space makes me think that Lionel's "new tooling" only meant the plastic body and they used the old SD50 frame.
- Crank
Yikes is right. That wheelbase looks way off, not to mention the smaller sized fuel tank. It looks like the SD70 frame is being used on these. Bummer.
Was ready to order last night. Thanks!............but no thanks.
Oh man, this is a newly-tooled locomotive? How did that front truck pass visual inspection?
I have a Conrail unit on order and my dealer hasn't called yet, but I think this will be the first time I refuse delivery of an engine. I hate to do it, but I can't pay for that. I also do not think I can preorder items anymore, too risky.
Very disappointing.
Rob
They may have been limited with how far forward they could mount the vertical motor and flywheel with the cab.
I just opened mine, was terrified it was God awful, it's not good, but it's a beautiful engine. Here's a quick video with an sd38
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It fortunately doesn't look as 'buck-toothed' as the ancient (by today's standards) SD40-2's, but it definitely could've been better, especially that gap between the trucks and the frame underside. Oh well. At least Lionel has yet to mess up Conrail blue, so that's a plus.
@biscuitag97 posted:Heres the reading and northern
Watch put, with the open alcohol bottles in background a pee test may be in order the “binkies” are everywhere……………lmao
looks great!
Anyone pick up the Missouri Pacific SD50?
@tom21pa posted:
I was expecting a diesel extravaganza in this video but what was going on in the background was a really effective homage to steam! Well done.
@Norman R posted:I was expecting a diesel extravaganza in this video but what was going on in the background was a really effective homage to steam! Well done.
Sorry was only a short video. I'll try to take another longer 1
No, really, I enjoyed seeing a huge steam radiator behind diesel engines. Good video! Thanks for posting.
@Eccentric Crank posted:Yikes!
- Crank
For reference, here's a side shot photo (3rd from the top) of Rio Grande SD50 no. 5507. As Eccentric Crank notes, and the photo shows, the center axle on the front truck should be directly under the cab window, and there's symmetrical spacing with respect to the trucks and fuel tank, with the front truck tight behind the pilot.
For many, though (and many won't even notice) it's not so bad as to ruin what otherwise seems to be a nice engine. But as others indicate, it's a deal-breaker on a $600+ engine, something in the "can't unsee it" category. I was on the fence with the RG version, so given that I'll probably pass. Too bad, because it kind of looks like Lionel got the orange color about right for a change.
Sd40, sd50, sd38
Here's A video of the conrail sd50's with a train
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@Terrance posted:Anyone pick up the Missouri Pacific SD50?
My MP SD50 is supposed to be delivered Monday.
Neal Jeter
I ordered the superbass MoPac one to run with my MTH MoPac ones. It should be here Thursday.
With the truck placement, it appears to be essentially the same as Lionel's standard cab SD60s (which were first catalogued in 1999)
The long hood on the SD50 has a different number of latched doors than the SD60 - I think that is what Lionel means by new tooling
@Rob N posted:Oh man, this is a newly-tooled locomotive? How did that front truck pass visual inspection?
I have a Conrail unit on order and my dealer hasn't called yet, but I think this will be the first time I refuse delivery of an engine. I hate to do it, but I can't pay for that. I also do not think I can preorder items anymore, too risky.
Very disappointing.
Rob
If you look at the pictures in the catalog, you can clearly see the middle wheel is NOT under the window and there is space between the last wheel and the body of the engine.
I bought two Conrail engines and I was pleased with them until I read these posts. (Nothing like bursting a guy's bubble!)
I am going to see if I can glue some thin black plastic pieces to extend from the pilot to hid the gaps.
Maybe someone at Lionel could let us know what happened with the gaps and truck placement and if its a re used frame from previous locomotive @Official Lionel Trains
@Texas Eagle 77 posted:I ordered the superbass MoPac one to run with my MTH MoPac ones. It should be here Thursday.
Is the price too high for the super base?
@John Pignatelli JR. posted:Is the price too high for the super base?
There's A $50 price difference Between The powered version And the super bass. $649 for powered, $599 superbass. If you pre order the price is lower.
@Gregcz1 posted:I bought two Conrail engines and I was pleased with them until I read these posts. (Nothing like bursting a guy's bubble!)
Yep, as my dear mother used to say -If you don't have something nice to say don't say 'anything'.
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I decided to take delivery of the new SD50, didn't want to hurt the dealer by backing out. When I opened it, as tom21 said, I found that the truck situation wasn't as bad (to me) as I feared. Not perfect, but not horrible. It runs and sounds great, and the Conrail blue and decoration is nice.
Gregcz1, sorry to have projected negativity in my post. It was a kneejerk reaction and I should have been more patient and waited until I saw the engine. I'm going to enjoy it and I hope everyone else enjoys theirs.
@Rob N posted:I decided to take delivery of the new SD50, didn't want to hurt the dealer by backing out. When I opened it, as tom21 said, I found that the truck situation wasn't as bad (to me) as I feared. Not perfect, but not horrible. It runs and sounds great, and the Conrail blue and decoration is nice.
Gregcz1, sorry to have projected negativity in my post. It was a kneejerk reaction and I should have been more patient and waited until I saw the engine. I'm going to enjoy it and I hope everyone else enjoys theirs.
Glad you like it, its not like anyone else is making sd50 models in O scale except Lionel and mth, and the mth one has swinging pilots and that blind wheel set that is a turn off to me.
I wasn't happy to hear about the truck situation, but then I looked at some other engines in my display case including my Lionel SD-70 MAC's and MTH GP-30's, SD-45's, (Railking Scale) and GP-40's and they all have the same issue, and I never noticed it before.
@John Pignatelli JR. posted:Is the price too high for the super base?
Honestly, I was skeptical that Lionel would get it right. I think it is too high a price on the super bass since it doesn't have a motor.
I am very happy with my MTH models. MTH got the trucks and the Missouri Pacific font right. I will post side by photos of the two models with they come. At least Lionel did different road numbers and my super bass model can bring up the rear.
My Lionel one should be here Friday. Here are my MTH ones for y'all to see. I ran them just a few weeks agonat a show.
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Good looking engines! I get the truck issue, but wouldn't stop me from buying one. Have too much on pre-order. lol. Thanks for sharing!
Mike
I have a few on pre-order and look forward to getting them. My bigger issue has been getting the colors close to correct, since I run them, I don't get to twisted when the trucks don't look 100 %.
Regarding the Superbase I have stopped buying them, the $50.00 difference makes buying a fully powered unit more cost effective because I ended up buying a second powered unit when available. The SP Kodachrome's from Lionel requires the Superbase to complete the power, plus they are very, very well done.
Here are a few pics comparing the new Lionel MoPac SD50 with the MTH ones I bought several years ago. #5050 is the super bass model from Lionel.
The details on the MTH model are crisper. The MoPac font on the Lionel is skinnier. The Lionel one is slightly longer and sits up taller and the colors are different shades. The MTH one has better truck details. The Lionel one has better pilot details. There is a gap between the front truck and the steps. MTH has the trucks in the correct spot.
I do not have a home layout so I will have to wait awhile to hear what super bass models sounds are like.
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I forgot to mention that I did have a slight "panic attack" when I noticed a piece of "glass" was missing from the right side of the cab window...I was checking the box, the bag, the outer shipping carton, even looking on the floor to see if the piece had fallen out when I took it out of the box!
Luckily, I had purchased a second engine and discovered it too had the same missing glass....I mean "design!" Phew!
