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As promised, here are photos of the PRR version.  These are a hair underexposed, but you get the idea.  We finally got offset number boards, but I will be refining this detail for the factory on the E7 v3.0.  Personally, I'm thrilled.  The only locomotive I'm missing on the PRR side of NY&LB operations in the mid 1950's is the BP20 and perhaps an E6s someday.

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GG1 4877 posted:

As promised, here are photos of the PRR version.  These are a hair underexposed, but you get the idea.  We finally got offset number boards, but I will be refining this detail for the factory on the E7 v3.0.  Personally, I'm thrilled.  The only locomotive I'm missing on the PRR side of NY&LB operations in the mid 1950's is the BP20 and perhaps an E6s someday.

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When you state refining the version, do you mean adding the "Bug Eye" red marker light on the center of the numberboard?

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prrhorseshoecurve posted:
 

When you state refining the version, do you mean adding the "Bug Eye" red marker light on the center of the numberboard?

At this point, mainly getting the offset anchors a little more to scale.  Not sure how to add the market as it is so small, but certainly a possibility.  I need to get 4 sets of Precision Scale versions while they might be remotely available to upgrade my 1st run E7s.  However, just having the number boards offset is a huge improvement for the Tuscan diesel era of the PRR.

sdmann posted:

And here is how we see them from our factory photo. Again, the Tuscan color we use is the same we use each time we make PRRT.

 

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Thanks Scott.  I should have pointed that out.  The color is consistent with every Sunset diesel offered since the original E7 of 2011.  I have at least one of every PRR Tuscan diesel made that includes the E7, FP7, E8, and now the PA. 

GG1 4877 posted:
prrhorseshoecurve posted:
 

When you state refining the version, do you mean adding the "Bug Eye" red marker light on the center of the numberboard?

At this point, mainly getting the offset anchors a little more to scale.  Not sure how to add the market as it is so small, but certainly a possibility.  I need to get 4 sets of Precision Scale versions while they might be remotely available to upgrade my 1st run E7s.  However, just having the number boards offset is a huge improvement for the Tuscan diesel era of the PRR.

Well the " bug eye" marker couldbr lit via fiber optic cable back into the nose then a red led in a plastic box inside the nose preforated by the fiber optic cable. 

You might want to check Bill Davis "American O scale" for that PRR  detailed number board that you seek!

This Forum is chock full of bad influences   

After seeing a number of posts about the new 3rd Rail PA's, I started to wish I had ordered one... and based a number of photos posted on another thread of the NH green paint scheme, that would have been my choice. In looking at 3rd Rails website, I found that I could put my name on a wait list, so on a lark, I added my name a couple of weeks ago. Last Monday, I got an e-mail from Scott saying he had an extra, so I immediately replied I'd love to have it. Today, the brown Easter Bunny dropped this off...

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And before anyone comments, I am leaving the foam over the two trucks so they will constantly clean the wheels!!! Looks like a beautifully detailed model - won't get a chance to run it till tomorrow.

Now a question...

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The engine come with a second pilot which a smaller opening which I think would look better. My layout has minimum O-72 curves - could I swap the pilots while keeping the electro-coupler???

Thanks.

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sdmann posted:

072 Turn-outs cause the couplers to reach across, opposite to the truck movement. Only then do you need the larger 3 rail opening in the pilot. Give it a try. Just a couple screws to replace it.

Scott

Thanks Scott. I saw the two screws, so it should be an easy change, even for a techno-peasant!!! I'll give it a try after I run it in a bit.

Thanks.

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The Rockford O Scalers believe these models are excellent as is (especially for the price) and we don’t mean to suggest otherwise.  We especially appreciate the all wheel electrical pickups that each unit has.  This is a great operational improvement over earlier SS 3rd Rail diesels that didn’t pick up on all wheels.

However, we do have some suggestions for continued improvement as follows:

1. The LEDs are very bright which is probably OK for a headlight but way too bright for backup headlights which, for some reason, are on when the units are running forward.  Also there is no need to light the A unit class lights with very bright LEDs in white and red.  This is distracting and toy like. (We probably will leave the lighting as is for fear of messing something up by trying to change it!)

2. Looking from the side of the units, there is too much motor/wiring/daylight visible through the grill work, especially in the B units when the lights are on at start up. (We will remedy this with black tape and/or paper after removing the body shells)

3. Cab interior has a large hand brake wheel visible which is correct only for an EMD FT. (This will be removed on our A units)

4. Our B unit had a very loud drivetrain vibration sound when we first ran it.  This turned out to be a loose set screw in one of the driveshaft universal joints going to the rear truck.  A few turns of the correct small size Allen wrench fixed that problem and both units now run as they should.

We really appreciate all of the work that Scott and crew have done to bring us these excellent models.  We look forward to the forthcoming EMD E5/E6 model’s!

 

Frank,

Thank you for the suggestions for improving the product.

FYI: In 2 Rail, all lighting is controllable and can be set to any intensity and behavior using DCC CVs or QSI's CV Manager Program.  There is a table in the manual for changing CVs for all the features.

We have links to the latest manuals and information regarding the QSI Titan Decoders. But don't ask me, I can hardly program a new engine number.

FOR 2 RAIL - QSI DCC MANUALS (DOWNLOAD)
FOR 2 RAIL - QSI PROGRAMS (DOWNLOAD)

As for the grills being see through, well I thought I would block out the interior view of the E7s by painting the backs of the windows on the 2nd run... NOT!!!  M many customers disliked that, so we don't block views even though the view is only of wires and motors and the such.

Enjoy your models... Great layout and pictures.

Scott - China

Frank McCabe posted:

Here are some photos of the Rockford O Scalers Pennsylvania Brunswick Green 5 stripe PA A/B set.  Beautiful!

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Thanks Frank! The Brunswick Green with 5 Gold stripes is a spectacular paint scheme and these Sunset/GGD pieces show it. I think the Tuscan version loses much of the elegance shown here as the Gold no longer "pops" against the paint.

Frank,

As Scott says the lights are easily adjustable using QSI CV Manager.  That's the first thing I do when getting a new Sunset engine.  And yes, the backup light was on in forward and reverse and I easily fixed that too.  If you haven't used CV Mgr , it's free.  Just download it and spend some time coming up the learning curve and then it's very user friendly.  I have found it to save me lots of time in the long run while adjusting all sorts of attributes in Sunset 2 rail DCC engines: lighting, sound, motor control, addressing etc.  And if you mess up just do a reset and it's back to factory settings.

FYI the decoder has four states 1) forward, 2) neutral from forward, 3 ) reverse, 4)  neutral from reverse.  The lights can be set for different effects in each state -- bright or dim or off.  And the intensity can be varied from full on bright as shipped to very low.  Each light can be separately controlled except the obvious pairs like class lights, number boards and markers.  For the reasons you stated about the B unit I turned the lights off in all 4 states. 

 Hope this helps.

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aterry11 posted:

   Anyone purchase the PRR version ?   Would you post a ton of pics please.

Anyone up for a run of FAs as only Sunset can do them?

I'd take a PRR ABBA set. 

Which Fa's? Fa-1 or Fa-2? I would take the Demo Fa-2 set for sure! 

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For the PRR version- the Fa-1 would do as there are too many Fa-2's around.

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  With every  photo posted I keep kicking myself in the arse, I swore I wouldn't sit on the fence but I did.  Of course 3 months off last year rehabbing a knee dents the pocketbook.  I could of hocked a kid or two I suppose.  I really wanted the RG Bumblebee paint though,.. so many more modeling possibilities than the aspen or four stripe.

  Can you imagine working on the real thing.  Might as well stand outside with all the open screens.

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aterry11 posted:

  With every  photo posted I keep kicking myself in the arse, I swore I wouldn't sit on the fence but I did.  Of course 3 months off last year rehabbing a knee dents the pocketbook.  I could of hocked a kid or two I suppose.  I really wanted the RG Bumblebee paint though,.. so many more modeling possibilities than the aspen or four stripe.

  Can you imagine working on the real thing.  Might as well stand outside with all the open screens.

Bumblebee.... you and me both my friend. I just don't get people lol

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