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Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by LLKJR:

Very Nice.  That Rich Melvin is one lucky guy to have the opportunity to be at the throttle of that beauty!

 

 

Larry

It certainly is NOT a matter of "luck"!

Maybe I should have used "fortunate" instead of luck because I do know it takes a lot of hard work, skill, dedication, effort and smarts to be on the right hand side of the cab.  And for you firemen out there, that goes double for you guys because you have to put up with cranky engineers!

 

Larry

Originally Posted by TrainWizard5972:

NKP 765 visited Toledo on Tuesday night on its way to Owosso. It came into town, turned on a wye and then backed into the station in order to pick up two two dome cars. It then spent the rest of the night in Toledo.

 

As I watch the above video, a random thought occurred to me about the way the backup move is being conducted by the engineer. It sounds to me that for such a low-speed reverse move with such a light load that the cutoff is being set fairly short.

 

How close to being on the mark is my speculation that steam expansion is sufficient to start the (short) consist and maintain a low speed during the backup move? (admittedly I've no reference for the tactic, but I didn't hear any long chuffs when the consist started to back up)

 

---PCJ

Originally Posted by LLKJR:

Very Nice.  That Rich Melvin is one lucky guy to have the opportunity to be at the throttle of that beauty!

I was no where near the 765 on this move. I wasn't in Owosso, either.  I had to work this weekend flying a couple of my corporate flight clients to their respective destinations (Muskoka, Ontario and Wilmington, NC.)

 

Railride, when making a yard move with only three cars it doesn't much matter where the cutoff is set, as long as the engine moves in the direction you want it to. You can't tell anything about the cutoff from the sound in this video, however it does appear that the engine was set in full reverse based on the position of the Reverse Shaft Arm on the valve gear.

Last edited by Rich Melvin
Rich,
  Do you have any idea when FWRHS is going to ship "Listen for the Whistle?" I ordered my copy in November and have not received it. I see it is in the store now too.
 
Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:
Originally Posted by LLKJR:

Very Nice.  That Rich Melvin is one lucky guy to have the opportunity to be at the throttle of that beauty!

I was no where near the 765 on this move. I wasn't in Owosso, either.  I had to work this weekend flying a couple of my corporate flight clients to their respective destinations (Muskoka, Ontario and Wilmington, NC.)

 

Railride, when making a yard move with only three cars it doesn't much matter where the cutoff is set, as long as the engine moves in the direction you want it to. You can't tell anything about the cutoff from the sound in this video, however it does appear that the engine was set in full reverse based on the position of the Reverse Shaft Arm on the valve gear.

 

Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by LLKJR:
 And for you firemen out there, that goes double for you guys because you have to put up with cranky engineers!

 

Larry

I have never had to put up with a cranky Engineer!  They, intern must put up with me.

Hot Water, I am still laughing.    You really aren't that bad are you?  Actually, I believe that the cab crew functions as a team.  If the fireman isn't doing a good job, the engineer has difficulty doing his, and if the engineer is "wasting fuel - steam" then the fireman has a difficult job.

 

Larry

Thank you for the videos.  I had a great time in Owosso on Saturday.  I got to see the 1225 on the turntable as they backed it into the yard to clean out the ash before the evening run.  What a magnificent piece on machinery.   Got to hang out in the cab of the NKP 765 for a short period of time and took some great pictures.  This is a must see event for steam lovers.  I was also glad a PRR passenger car was included.

 

Originally Posted by LLKJR:
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by LLKJR:
 And for you firemen out there, that goes double for you guys because you have to put up with cranky engineers!

 

Larry

I have never had to put up with a cranky Engineer!  They, intern must put up with me.

Hot Water, I am still laughing.    You really aren't that bad are you?  Actually, I believe that the cab crew functions as a team.  If the fireman isn't doing a good job, the engineer has difficulty doing his, and if the engineer is "wasting fuel - steam" then the fireman has a difficult job.

 

Larry

Actually, having spent the vast majority of my firing career on oil burning steam locomotives, the Engineer is far more important to the ability if a Fireman to maintain proper steam pressure, a proper level in the gauge glasses, and a reasonably clear stack. Luckily, I have more than 38 years of firing for some of the very best Engineers, thus I know how a large  4-8-4 or 4-6-6-4 is supposed to be operated. On rare occasions when a "guest Engineer" or an Engineer mandated by the host railroad, has been in the right hand seat, I have had to "request" that certain methods be used concerning the proper power reverse gear setting vs. the throttle setting. In one specific case, I got a bit vocal!

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