Now what did I do wrong?

I know I'm going to answer my own thread, bottom line, you have been on here since 2003 and still haven't learned anything?  Boy do I feel sorry for you.  Sonny

Does any of you men have an answer to my problem? Please even just one that thinks he has what I should try.  19 hours an no one wants to talk to me.  Sonny

I can hear the experts pose these thoughts/questions...

We need more details about your situation.

What type of transformer are you using?

How is the TIU wired to the transformer?

How are each of your 6 tracks wired to the TIU?

Have you successfully added these engines in the past or is this your first try?

Ron (No expert)

Sonny, I've been running model trains since 1941 and still encounter problems.  Did you make any changes since the last time you ran them?

After I finish waking up, I'll have to think deeper into possibilities.  First thing that strikes me, is the red light inside the TIU (do you have 1 or 2 TIUs?) lit?  I have at times inadvertently loosed the power plug for the wall warts that power mine through the AUX port, and get the results you are getting.

Is the subway powered differently from the rest?

Sonny,

    Shut everything down and start from the beginning again, make sure your wires from the transformer to the TIU are all on properly and the same from the TIU to the tracks.  Makes sure the red light is on inside the TIU. 

PCRR/Dave

Hey sonny. maybe this will help.    There are 2 parts to dcs. one is remote tiu communications. in other words does the read (bottom left on the remote) find the tiu? just press the read and let us know. tiu found or not not found?

The second part is a little more complicated, is the tiu actually generating a dcs signal. to test  . anyway one step at a time ..Does the read find the tiu?

I feel like a 90 year old just spank,an I desiredit,  I read my own thread.  Thank you men, NOW my tiu hook up worked once. then nothing. TIU all four channels powered by one z4000, (one side only) others by 2 now I forgot  the name of those bricks, and one 750 brick, TIU aux. powered by one750 brick. Now when I hit read everything all 6 separate tracks with engines start up all names on remote.  hit read get no trains found. Tried a separate 10ft track connected to fixed 1 tiu, nothing else on put mth engine on track, remote reads engine not found, etc. When I hit switch an fire up entire layout, all engines start up with cab chatter, hit remote for any one engine get engine not found. I'm going out to layout an do what Gregg said hit read and see what if says although I think I know.  Will be back with anything else you men my say..Thanks again.  Sonny

How about trying just one good engine on each track separately.  Take one known good engine and try it on each track independently.

That should help isolate track vs engine issues.  Once you know what works and what does not, then you can move forward from there.

Ron

Hey sonny, try the read again and give us the exact wording when it comes to the tiu, Ex    it may say something like "tiu 1 found , no aiu box connected"  or tiu 1 not found. It may even say a different tiu number other than 1. If the remote and tiu are not communicating you're beat. no use trying anything until this issue is fixed.

Gregg. you are right. At first I had power on, got engines notfound,  etc., I then power every thing off.  Sat there licking my  wounds.  picked ;up remote, started in and hit read. TIU ONE NOT FOUND, TWO NOT FOUND; THREE NOT FOUND.  NOW what do I do in order for remote to find TIU ONE?  In Barry's book maybe.  Sonny

How many TIU's do you have?

2 gunrunnerjohn,but I only use 1 tiu.  Sonny

Sorry guys, I'm new here, but can someone tell me about Barry's book and where I can get it?, thanks-----Mark

Mark,

I sure can!  

Everything that you could ever want to know about DCS is al lln “The DCS O Gauge Companion 2nd Edition", available for purchase as an eBook or a printed book at MTH's web store!

Upmontman, the only way I did. 1 hit on search;type in how to buy barry's book. the thread comes up, first thread, scroll down and up comes Barry's thread, where is says hit here and  up comes for you to order.  OR hopefully some one will have an easer way.  Sonny

If your remote is looking for multiple TIU's, I suggest you just do a factory reset on it, likewise the TIU.  Starting fresh, the remote should find the TIU and allow you to add engines.  With the reset of the TIU, it'll be TIU #1 again if it's not now.  I have no idea how you managed to get multiple TIUs configured, but I think a reset all around to get things laying flat is the expedient course at this point.

Sonny,

Please post  a list with the catalog numbers of the engines you cannot not add.

Chris

LVHR

Chris, the fact that he's got at least three TIU's configured into the remote suggests to me that it's not an engine issue.

Thanks Barry!!!!---Mark

John,

That is a possibility, but I would not write it off just yet. I would try setting up a single track with 1 TIU running through Fixed 1 and try to add each engine one at a time. If they all add, then we can figure out what the next issue is. Be sure the other TIU(s) are off.

Chris

LVHR

He only has one TIU in use, so the fact that the remote is looking for three of them suggests a configuration issue.  That's why I suggest starting there.

We have to find out what number sonny's tiu is(are). Sonny  If you look at the top of the tiu there's a red led that blinks when the tiu is first powered up. The number of blinks is the actual tiu number. Sonny , power up the tiu and count the number of times the red blinks before coming on steady. How many blinkS???

John,

I missed that particular post. Sorry 'bout that!

I'll go with Gregg's thought. Let's see what the TIU address is set at.

Chris

LVHR

Chris,

   I think you will find that Guns is correct on this one, it's probably a configuration problem, he is probably going to need to rest some stuff, so everything runs properly.

PCRR/Dave

How many blinks sonny ?

You guys are great.  OK Is it possible there are two red lights, even so I only get one blink.  Now what do  I do?  Sonny

OK, I deleitd the other 2 & 3 from remote. I now used read and I get TIU 1 not found.  How do I get it found?  Sonny

there's only one thing left to try that I can think of. ..... tether the remote and tiu together with a phone cable. The curly one that goes between the hand set and phone base. Not the one that goes from the base to the wall outlet. Try the read again with curly cable (must be a 4 wire one).

double check the blinks... Sounds like your tiu is a one blinker. Reset the remote which will leave tiu #1 already added by default.   Cross your fingers for good luck.

Gregg is right, it's sounding like either the TIU or remote transceiver board has come loose, the tether will verify that.  If that's the case, Barry's book has detailed instructions on opening them up and reseating them.

Sonny , i believe is in  barnagat  nj.  isnt there someone near to him, with some spare time, who might be of local assistance ?   

Gregg & Gunner; I connected curly between tiu & remote. What came up on remote was my AM engine.  haven't tried any else yet. Also what page on Barry's book do I find this. I went back & forth and can't find anything about what should come up on the remote. OH yes thankyou og fan that was a very nice thread.  Sonny

OH BOY; it works with the curly. So far on my remote I put 2 engines on it and they started up , now this is on the test track.  It looks like I have to put each engine on the test track an add them. but as long as it's going to work that will be fine by me. You know I think I'll try taking all engines off of layout, except one fire layout up and see if that will add engine to remote.  Think so.  Sonny

Hey Sonny, that's great news. at least you can run some trains. . I don't want to get into taking the remote or tiu apart to check for loose transceiver boards. It's tricky and I already ruined a remote trying to take a remote apart.   yes your test track is an excellent way to add engines  one at a time. Good luck sonny.