NS 4610 is now black

I guess the steam program and f units don't really count for anything then?

You can never make railfans happy!

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Originally posted by mlavender480:
Way to celebrate your heritage, NS.

I'm always amused when folks seem to think the railroads owe them things like fancy paint.

Rusty

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Originally posted by mattrains:
I guess the steam program and f units don't really count for anything then?

You can never make railfans happy!

Good god don't tell NS that...they'll yank the program again...
Those F unit's are really something to see...just beautiful.

First of all I am not one of those foamers, in fact I do quite the opposite by putting in lots of hours painting, scraping, putting in ties, and running trains by volunteering on the local tourist railroad by my school and working as an engineer on the dinner train that shares the same line. It's very disheartening to read when railfans such as yourself criticize any sort of railroad whether it be a class one or a tourist line for not having something painted the right way or not having something the way that they think would be right, but when given the opportunity to actually help out and paint or donate to a fund to put an engine back into working order all the people that were criticizing usually disappear. While I'm not saying that this is how it is with most people who are into trains it does count for the majority that I have met whether it was in person or on a forum.

P.S.. I couldn't care less what roadname or color is painted on the side of a train.

Mathew

WAIT..WAIT..All is not lost. No need for a flare up. Here is the answer.

LOOK AT ME!


Ed Mullan

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Originally posted by mlavender480:
Never said NS "owed" me anything, so don't put words in my mouth. Thank you.

They have one "heritage" unit, and repainted it black. Doesn't seem to make much sense to me. But then again, NS never was a "class act". They are the rattiest-looking Class 1 I've ever seen, steam program and OCS units nonwithstanding. The local shortline looks more professional than they do.

Want to see a railroad with class? Look at UP. Sorry if I offended all the NS foamers.

Ask Metra commuters about the UP's class act when they had coal trains delaying the scoots several years ago. Or when UP wanted royalties for every image published or for every UP model train made.

I remember reading somewhere that when the UP heritage units will need repainting, the will emerge from the paint shop back in yellow and grey.

I like heritage units, I wish the BNSF would do some, but they haven't. Am I upset, worry about it or think BNSF is missing the boat? No.

Hertiage paint has a finite lifespan. It cost more to paint and the practicality of standard paint eventually outweighs the benefit of heritage paint.

And although I'm not an NS enthusiast, the NS from my perspective apppears to be doing just fine.

Rusty

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They are the rattiest-looking Class 1 I've ever seen,...

Want to see a railroad with class? Look at UP. Sorry if I offended all the NS foamers.

Guess you haven't looked at, or riden in, some of those "trashy" UP units scattered all over the nation. Look Pal, the UP is no better than any other class 1 RR, so keep your foaming to yourself.

Ed, I do like the look of that 999. I would buy a model of that one in a heartbeat.

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Originally posted by Allan Miller:
Ed, I do like the look of that 999. I would buy a model of that one in a heartbeat.

Me too.. Neat paint scheme.

John

Definetly a interesting look, I'd go for one.

Looks like someone offended poor Mike! Gee,,,,,that's too bad.

NS has a lot of good people working for them, and a fine long history....I fail to see how they are ignoring/turning their back on anything by repainting the unit in the current scheme....when did it become an obligation for the class 1's to do heritage units?

NW 1776

From the railfan's perspective, all railroads all have their good points and their bad points. Through it all, railroads that are safe, reliable, have good employee morale and have enough revenue adequacy to give their shareowners a decent return are the kind of railroads I want to see.

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Originally posted by Big Jim:
NW 1776

I'll bet NS ate the cost of that repaint over and above the $10K Trains Magazine grant. Trust me, repainting an SD45 costs A LOT MORE than $10K. Thank you, Norfolk Southern!!!

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Originally posted by Allan Miller:
Ed, I do like the look of that 999. I would buy a model of that one in a heartbeat.

Yes, that is one "9 9 9 plan" I would support. Lionel has a starter set out with this paint scheme on a GP38-2 I believe.

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Originally posted by mattrains:
I guess the steam program and f units don't really count for anything then?

You can never make railfans happy!

I hate to burst your bubble, but the NS 21st Century Steam Program is NOT being run for railfans. In fact, if you were to make a list of the various audiences for the program (employees, shippers, politicians, media, general public, etc.) I don't think "railfans" is even on the list.

They may not be run for railfans, but we certainly can revel in them and enjoy them.

Ed Mullan

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Originally posted by Rusty Traque:
I like heritage units, I wish the BNSF would do some, but they haven't. Am I upset, worry about it or think BNSF is missing the boat? No.

What in blue blazes are you talking about? BNSF doesn't need to make special heritage locos: they already have just about every paint job ever used already out there. Ever seen a BNSF consist out here? Everyday I see the pumpkins, the red & silver ATSF, blue & yellow Sante Fe geeps, green & white BN..... Heck, it's ALL still here, in Branchline Land!


Kent in SD

I'd love to see that on my layout.