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Originally Posted by pittsburghrailfan:

Question: Will 765 be routed thru Pittsburgh on its way to Lewistown? 

NS Website:

  • May 12: Rocky River, Ohio, to Bellevue, Ohio. Host: FWRHS. Steam locomotive NKP 765.
  • May 25, 26 and 27: Lewistown, Pa., to Horseshoe Curve, Pa. Host: FWRHS. Steam locomotive NKP 765.

And as we know, steam engines can't fly without us notcing

Yes, it will head thru Pittsburgh on its way east. Another way would be on the ex-NKP route to Buffalo, then down the Buffalo Line to Harrisburg, then west to Lewistown via the Pittsburgh Line. But that's a little out of the way.

Plus, I hear the guy that runs this forum knows ALOT better than me, and I'm subject to clarification.

Originally Posted by MH2198:
Originally Posted by pittsburghrailfan:

Question: Will 765 be routed thru Pittsburgh on its way to Lewistown? 

NS Website:

  • May 12: Rocky River, Ohio, to Bellevue, Ohio. Host: FWRHS. Steam locomotive NKP 765.
  • May 25, 26 and 27: Lewistown, Pa., to Horseshoe Curve, Pa. Host: FWRHS. Steam locomotive NKP 765.

And as we know, steam engines can't fly without us notcing

Yes, it will head thru Pittsburgh on its way east. Another way would be on the ex-NKP route to Buffalo, then down the Buffalo Line to Harrisburg, then west to Lewistown via the Pittsburgh Line. But that's a little out of the way.

Plus, I hear the guy that runs this forum knows ALOT better than me, and I'm subject to clarification.

To Rich Melvin: Will the 765 deadhead thru Pittsburgh?

I wonder if the NS will allow the steam engines to operate without their "diesel trailer" this year?  Did either engine have any foul up during the tours in 2012 that required the diesel to be cut in?

 

Another question:  When the NS first planned these employee excursions, there was talk that the Southern Mikado, #4501, was being readied for mainline service.  Haven't heard anything about that proposal for some time now.  Anyone know anything about how that's coming?

 

Paul Fischer

Brad:

 

I'm kind of anxious for more info too as I have to make air and rental car reservations.  Took care of the lodging part when my sister who lives in Burnham said their guest room will be waiting for me.

 

Being Memorial Day weekend and the likelihood that space on the three Lewistown/Horseshoe Curve trips will go fast, your safest approach to tickets out of Lewistown is probably to do what I did.  Send the FWRHS an e-mail advising your preferred date and number of tickets. The website says they will have ticketing info available soon and, for the reasons noted above, the sooner the better (for me, at least).

 

Curt

 

Originally Posted by fisch330:

I wonder if the NS will allow the steam engines to operate without their "diesel trailer" this year?  Did either engine have any foul up during the tours in 2012 that required the diesel to be cut in?

We'll have a diesel when it is needed. When do we "need" a diesel?

1) To stretch the coal on long, 250+ mile deadheads, as in Cleveland - Pittsburgh - Altoona and a couple others.
2) For dynamic brakes coming down the mountain into Altoona.

When on the former PRR, we may have the PRR Heritage Unit.

We will probably not have a diesel on the Rocky River to Bellevue trip.
Short trip...no grades...so it won't be needed.

 

On the last move we made in 2012 we ran all the way from St. Louis to Fort Wayne without any diesel in the consist. By then NS had gained sufficient confidence in the 765 and her crew that they were comfortable with us on the main line without a diesel.

Last edited by Rich Melvin
Originally Posted by John Meixel:

Rich, will you have the coal cars in the excursion train, like last year, or will there be just coaches?  I understand why you needed them but it did detract from the train's appearance.

 

I'll let Rich give the final word, but the coal gons were only used on the ferry runs.  Out of all the trips I saw, NONE of the passenger runs had the coal gons.

 

It just makes more sense operationally to move the coal with the 765 (or 630) than to have to do extra switching on both ends to tie them onto a freight.

Kevin

 

P.S.  For what it's worth, one of the best pictures of 765 I got last year WAS a ferry run with the gons up front and no diesel.  For all intents and purposes, it was 765 on a freight.

 

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Rich, can you go into any more detail on your comment above:
'' 2) For dynamic brakes coming down the mountain into Altoona.''

Us east-coast-starving-for-mainline-steam-fans are dying to know if you will get to tackle going UP the mountain from Altoona with just the 765 this time?

Also, what about between Altoona & Lewistown?

759 stretched her legs a few times on that piece of RR some 40-odd years ago.

(and like you said in another thread on here a few weeks back, 765 aint chopped liver!)

Originally Posted by John Meixel:

I believe I saw them in the consist going around Horseshoe Curve.

 

that was a ferry move, not an Employee Appreciation Trip.  The Horseshoe Curve moves were to get the engine from Pittsburgh (where the EAS trips were run) to Harrisburg (where the EAS trips were run), and then back home to Fort Wayne.

Kevin

Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:
Originally Posted by fisch330:

I wonder if the NS will allow the steam engines to operate without their "diesel trailer" this year?  Did either engine have any foul up during the tours in 2012 that required the diesel to be cut in?

We'll have a diesel when it is needed. When do we "need" a diesel?

1) To stretch the coal on long, 250+ mile deadheads, as in Cleveland - Pittsburgh - Altoona and a couple others.
2) For dynamic brakes coming down the mountain into Altoona.

When on the former PRR, we may have the PRR Heritage Unit.

We will probably not have a diesel on the Rocky River to Bellevue trip.
Short trip...no grades...so it won't be needed.

 

On the last move we made in 2012 we ran all the way from St. Louis to Fort Wayne without any diesel in the consist. By then NS had gained sufficient confidence in the 765 and her crew that they were comfortable with us on the main line without a diesel.

Rich, when will 765 deadhead thru Pittsburgh? Could I have a date and approximate time?

Originally Posted by Reading Steam Guru:
Us east-coast-starving-for-mainline-steam-fans are dying to know if you will get to tackle going UP the mountain from Altoona with just the 765 this time?

Also, what about between Altoona & Lewistown?

759 stretched her legs a few times on that piece of RR some 40-odd years ago.

(and like you said in another thread on here a few weeks back, 765 aint chopped liver!)

We ran upgrade around the curve last time without using the diesel. It was just idling. I know...I was there.

 

The diesel will probably be in the consist for the entire trip from Lewistown (Harrisburg) to Gallitzin and back. It would take too much time to switch it into the consist in Altoona, plus we actually need it to stretch the coal a little. We start and end our day in Harrisburg, so as far as 765's fuel is concerned, we are running a round trip all the way from Harrisburg to Gallitzin and back.

 

No...I can't give you a time for the deadhead move via Pittsburgh. Deadheads don't run on a set schedule.

Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:
Originally Posted by Lenny:

Just asking,

How come you don't stay at Lewistown, there's a 110 foot active table there.

 

Len.

You can't turn the whole train on a 110-foot turntable.

Sure you can, one car at a time. Should only take you 10 or 12 hours to put the whole train back together.

 

Good grief!

Originally Posted by Lenny:

Oh ok, didn't realize you are turing the whole train.

 What is your traveling speed (MPH) set at?  Any idea what time in the moring you guy's would be leaving for Liewstown?

Speed will be 40 mph. I think departure is set for 0830.

 


 

Originally Posted by 2101 & 614:

This may be a dumb question but how do I purchase tickets for the Lewistown to Horseshow Curve trip?  I don't see this information anywhere?

On-line ticket sales are not up and running yet. Watch the web site - www.765.org - for information. Ticket sales will go on line in a day or two.

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