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Recently, I constructed a GP9b cab out of styrene... but I was wondering if I could find a more accurate one. I looked at shapeways.com, but they do not have a drawing for this cab, even in HO. When I 'googled' "O Scale GP9b Cab", all the results were for HO and N scale ones. I did notice that Samhongsa produced a brass one, but I'm sure this costs more money than one could ever dream of, and good luck finding one. If anyone could find drawings for this cab, it probabably wouldn't be a bad idea to consider drawing one in a CADD program or sending them to Shapeways to be drawn. Included below is a photo of the GP9b cab I made out of styrene...

 

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This probably wouldn't be a bad model for Lionel or Atlas to do, it could be painted in UP, two PRR schemes... PC and Conrail, and not to mention all the patched versions in between. 

 

If anyone knows of a source for an O scale GP9b cab, could you please share with me? Thank you!

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They don't have to be dummies.   They could be powered units running with other powered units.    All except one of my many diesels are powered and run as sets (consists).

 

It might be easier for a basement manufacturer to make a conversion kit to use with the old intermountain or the new Atlas O GP-9s.    The market might better support a small run of that type.

 

I have seen other kitbashes liike the one above.

Lionel made the GP9 B unit about 15 years ago, but it was on a somewhat improved postwar-style body. They were dummy units. You could buy an upgrade kit to add TMCC-controlled couplers. The postwar body is pretty close to scale size, but it lacks detail. If I recall correctly, the early TMCC units did have add-on grab irons rather than molded-in ones like the postwar originals.

 

Few GP9 B units were made. The UP and the Pennsy were the only railroads I know of that had them. Lionel added a few more roads, including the Milwaukee and NYC. 

Santa Fe also had a couple B units but I don't think they were bought as B units. I think they were either wrecked or modified for a specific reason. Have to check my library. I would love 1 or 2, but that cab has to be scratch built. Excellent job for the styrene masters Brother Love or Alan G  

Actually, the Santa Fe was the first to buy factory built GP booster units.  2788A through 2792A were late model GP7B's, and were used mostly in Texas.  A few months later, Union Pacific bought GP9B's starting with 130B.  I was lucky enough to have a cab ride in 1954, aboard UP 131-131B-132B-132.

 

Steven Michael, you could approach Atlas about making GP7B and GP9B units.  It would be fairly simple for them, as it would only require the creation of a hood part with portholes, to insert between the front and rear hoods instead of inserting the cab casting.  This is a good opportunity for you to do something for the greater good of the hobby.  Atlas could probably sell a decent number of GP9B's, but not repetitively.  Union Pacific and PRR both have a large following, and any hood unit manufactured in Santa Fe zebra stripes sells quickly.

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chevy331 posted:

Hi guys.I'm new here. I see everyone here is into o scale. I have a G scale Gp9 that I'm trying to make into a Gp9B. It's a USA loco and I've never done any conversion before. I think it'll be fun.

Then you might want to check out the HONGZ Forum, where all the G gauge guys hang out. As the title of this particular forum says, "Hi-Rail, 027 and Traditional 3-Rail O Gauge", pretty much everyone here is into O Gauge.

Welcome aboard.

Steven Michael, 

Great thread!  This is a project that I have added to my "bucket list."  I have been collecting information on the GP9B units and trying to figure out how to go about making everything go together.  The cab actually looks pretty straight forward.  Changing the fans to 48" dia.  and filling in the number boards also don't look too intimidating.  Extending the hand rails looks to be one of the biggest challenges.

Good luck with this project.  Keep us posted.

Tom

 

There is a Kratville book called Motive Power of the Union Pacific System that contains drawings of UP power from early steam through 2nd generation diesels.  I have the book but it is in storage at the moment.  It may have drawings of the UP gp9b unit.  If anybody has the book in hand, perhaps they could check.

Scale drawings were apparently presented in the May 1966 RMC.

Also there may be information in Diesel Era Magazine.  They have done a series on the early gp's that seems quite exhuastive.

I agree with others that have suggested continuing on in styrene.  The B unit "cab" is very straight forward, all simple shapes.  It would be faster, easier, and cheaper to build it out of sheet styrene and quarter round strips. If the porthole matches those on F and E units, then that part could be grafted in.  A drop in part from Atlas would be ideal, and given the modular nature of their tooling, an easy substitute for the cab.  But I feel odds are low of anything happening on that front anytime soon.  Separately, you may need to address louvers and doors in the short hood if you want to take it that far.

Jim

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