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I was watching the latest Trains and Locomotives show on RFD which had great footage of SP 4449.  Decided to go to the web site and noted that it is off the rails for the next 1-2 years for the 15 year refurb.  This led me to the abbreviated check list as to what has to be done to keep this baby on the rails.  With all the regs and such, it is amazing that any of the steamers still run!

 

9 CFR Part 230, Appendix A to Part 230 - Inspection Requirements

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Appendix A to Part 230—Inspection Requirements
The lists in this appendix are intended as guidance only. Adherence to this list does not relieve the steam locomotive owner and/or operator of responsibility for either: (1) Completing the inspection and maintenance requirements described in this part; or (2) ensuring that the steam locomotive, tender and its parts and appurtenances are safe and suitable for service.
Daily Inspection Requirements; § 230.13
1. Observance of lifting pressure of the lowest safety valve.
2. Testing of water glasses and gauge cocks.*
3. Inspection of tubular water glass shields.
4. Inspection of all cab lamps.*
5. Inspection of boiler feedwater delivery systems.*
6. Inspection of lagging for indication of leaks.
7. Inspection for leaks obstructing vision of engine crew.
8. Observance of compressor(s) and governor to ascertain proper operation.*
9. Inspection of brake and signal equipment.*
10. Inspection of brake cylinders for piston travel.
11. Inspection of foundation brake gear.
12. Inspection of sanders.*
13. Inspection of draw gear and chafing irons.
14. Inspection of draft gear.
15. Inspection of crossheads and guides.
16. Inspection of piston rods and fasteners.
17. Inspection of main, side, and valve motion rods.
18. Inspection of headlights and classification lamps.*
19. Inspection of running gear.
20. Inspection of tender frames and tanks.
21. Inspection of tender trucks for amount of side bearing clearance.
Note:
All items marked (*) should be checked at the beginning of each day the locomotive is used.
31 Service Day Inspection Requirements; § 230.14
1. Washing of boiler.
2. Cleaning and inspection of water glass valves and gauge cocks.
3. Cleaning, washing and inspection of arch tubes, water bar tubes, circulators and siphons.
4. Removal and inspection of all washout and water tube plugs.
5. Testing of all staybolts.
6. Removal, cleaning and inspection of fusible plugs (if any).
92 Service Day Inspection Requirements; § 230.15
1. Removal and testing of all air and steam gauges.
2. Cleaning of steam gauge siphon pipe.
3. Renewal of tubular water glasses.
4. Testing and adjusting of safety relief valves.
5. Testing of main reservoir and brake cylinder leakage.
6. Entering and inspection of tender tank interior.
Annual Inspection Requirements; § 230.16
1. Testing of thickness of arch and water bar tubes (arch brick to be removed)
2. Hydrostatic testing of boiler.
3. Testing of all staybolts.
4. Interior inspection of boiler.
5. Thickness verification of dry pipes.
6. Smoke box inspection.
7. Main reservoir hammer or UT testing and hydrostatic testing (for non-welded and drilled main reservoirs)
8. Removal and inspection of steam locomotive drawbar(s) and pins (NDE testing other than merely visual)
9. Inspection of longitudinal lap joint boiler seams.
5 Year Inspection Requirements; § 230.16
1. Inspection of flexible staybolt caps and sleeves.
1472 Service Day Inspection Requirements; § 230.17
1. Removal of boiler flues (as necessary) and cleaning of boiler interior.
2. Removal of jacket and lagging and inspection of boiler interior and exterior.
3. Hydrostatic testing of boiler.
4. Thickness verification (boiler survey) and recomputation and update of steam locomotive specification card, (FRA Form No. 4
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HW Hot WaterOGR Forum Member
Originally Posted by SWANKO:

I was watching the latest Trains and Locomotives show on RFD which had great footage of SP 4449.  Decided to go to the web site and noted that it is off the rails for the next 1-2 years for the 15 year refurb.  This led me to the abbreviated check list as to what has to be done to keep this baby on the rails.  With all the regs and such, it is amazing that any of the steamers still run!

 

Actually, it really isn't as bad as it looks, if one is unfamiliar with how all those "checks" work out. Yes, it is very labor intensive and VERY time consuming, especially for a volunteer organization as we have. Good old 4449 is actually coming along quite nicely, and is already starting to "go back together" again, now that the various & necessary materials are on site.

 

The next phase of her project, will be to drop two of the main drive wheels, in order to re-babbitt the crown bearings. That project will begin when the drop table had been inspected & modified for the installation into the ORHF building's drop-pit. 

Engineer-JoeEngineer-JoeOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

 I just watched that show too. I had it taped on Monday. I saw Jack's name in the credits. Will you still be on the crew?

 When I searched on the net for more, I also came across a rebuild of a Alco PA that they're doing. Must be a project of Doyle's? Is he active in this?

Very interesting and looks like a total rebuild, deeper than the current 4449 recert?

Looks like it's well underway and even some paint on the nose.

HW Hot WaterOGR Forum Member
Originally Posted by Enginear-Joe:

 I just watched that show too. I had it taped on Monday. I saw Jack's name in the credits. Will you still be on the crew?

 

Yes.

 

 

 When I searched on the net for more, I also came across a rebuild of a Alco PA that they're doing. Must be a project of Doyle's?Is he active in this?

 

Yes. The ALCO PA is Doyle's personal property, but many of the 4449 crew really enjoy helping him with the rebuild project.

 

Very interesting and looks like a total rebuild, deeper than the current 4449 recert?

 

I'm not quite sure I understand your meaning, i.e. which "total rebuild" are you talking about?  The PA? 

 

Looks like it's well underway and even some paint on the nose.

 

You must have looked at much older photos of NKP #190, as she is pretty well complete AND painted, now. The engine even runs, and all that remains is the installation of all the traction motor cabling to the main electrical cabinet.

 

I suggest you try the NKP190 website.

 

Engineer-JoeEngineer-JoeOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

 The first pics I saw were of the PA with just the nose painted. I didn't know it was so far along. Thank you!

 The rebuild of the PA looks to me like it was in really bad shape when he got it? I'm not a RR worker. It just looked bad to me. Like it needed a total rebuild of everything?? I can't imagine how much effort and dollars that would take to bring it back like the new pics look now.

http://www.nkp190.com/gallery....=5880304277272806961

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HW Hot WaterOGR Forum Member
Originally Posted by KansasMike:
Originally Posted by Hot Water:

The next phase of her project, will be to drop two of the main drive wheels, in order to re-babbitt the crown bearings.


Please correct if I'm incorrect, but that sounds like 4449 doesn't use roller bearings on those axles.

No, you are indeed correct. The Southern Pacific Mechanical Department developed the concept of pressure feed oil lubricated babbitted crown bearings, and thus had no need for the extra expense of roller bearings. The SP had only TWO steam locomotives, in the history of their railroad equipped with roller bearings on all axles, and those were the two GS-5 locomotives #4458 and #4459.

 

Every axle on 4449, except for the four driver axles, have been up-graded to roller bearings, including the tender and the auxiliary tender.

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