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I mean the ones that are on all four corners of tender trucks. I think they are known as safety chains, but I could be wrong.

For sure they don't do diddely on O gauge trains, but they must have had some purpose on the 12" = 1 foot scale.

 

Anyone know?

 

Thanks,

Rod

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Originally Posted by Silver Lake:
Also they may have been used to move cars on adjacent tracks like a poleing rod would. I don't really have an answer.

Nope. Those truck safety chains are generally NOT removable in the field, plus they would be way too short for "chaining a car" that had had a complete coupler system failure (chain the car to a siding).

Originally Posted by Gilly@N&W:

Safety chains on the tender trucks limit the rotation of the truck in the event of a derailment. 

OK that's kind of what I figured.

so that is so as to lessen the severity in the event of a derailment of a tender truck I suppose?

I can certainly understand how they would help with the engine pilot truck.

 

Thanks for everyone's input.

 

Rod

Contrary to popular opinion, railroad cars, including steam locomotive tenders, just sit on their trucks. The trucks are not mechanically "connected" to the car. If you were to lift the car body of a steam locomotive tender with a crane, the trucks would stay on the rails. Of course, you would tear up the brake rigging and a few other things in the process, but the trucks would not lift with the car body.

 

Those chains keep the trucks close to the tender in the event of a serious derailment involving an upset or rollover, and they prevent the truck from slewing too far If they come off the rails in a minor derailment.

Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:

Contrary to popular opinion, railroad cars, including steam locomotive tenders, just sit on their trucks. The trucks are not mechanically "connected" to the car. If you were to lift the car body of a steam locomotive tender with a crane, the trucks would stay on the rails. Of course, you would tear up the brake rigging and a few other things in the process, but the trucks would not lift with the car body.

 

Those chains keep the trucks close to the tender in the event of a serious derailment involving an upset or rollover, and they prevent the truck from slewing too far If they come off the rails in a minor derailment.

Yes, that's what we learned at the UP Cheyenne shops a few years ago.  Why?  To save maintenance time (therefore, $$$$) in changing out worn wheel-sets.

Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:

Contrary to popular opinion, railroad cars, including steam locomotive tenders, just sit on their trucks. The trucks are not mechanically "connected" to the car. If you were to lift the car body of a steam locomotive tender with a crane, the trucks would stay on the rails. Of course, you would tear up the brake rigging and a few other things in the process, but the trucks would not lift with the car body.

 

Those chains keep the trucks close to the tender in the event of a serious derailment involving an upset or rollover, and they prevent the truck from slewing too far If they come off the rails in a minor derailment.


Didn't know that Rich. Thanks for the info!

Makes a lot of sense now.

 

Rod

Originally Posted by chuck:

There was an erie photo in Trains magazine of a line of trucks sitting on the tracks while the cars they had been under were lying on their sides adjacent to the tracks.

Eerie photo:

 
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Strong winds blow over rail cars  
 
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Hard straight winds from the east blew over two rail cars off W. Bradford,  just past Allen Street near Market Road on Tuesday afternoon. A crew member at  the scene said a crane was coming in today to lift the cars back on the track.  Half of the load of treated wood timbers had been unloaded, but many were  spilled onto the ground near the tracks.

Read more:  Altus Times - Strong winds blow over rail cars


 

 

 

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Here's the nuts and bolts of why you want to try to keep the trucks of a derailed tender in line with the equipment:

 

Usually, derailments are minor in nature, and in line with the track -- typically, splitting a turnout or turning over a rail where tie conditions are poor such as yards, spurs, and sometimes sidings.  The best way to retail equipment is usually to use blocks and/or frogs to get the wheels back onto the rail.  Chains and a "come-along" are used to rotate the truck and guide it as the equipment is inched over the blocks.  With a typical freight car truck, it is much easier to rotate the truck than it would be with the typical six wheel tender truck.  Therefore, limiting rotation of tender trucks when they derail is more important and chains accomplished this.

 

In major derailments, as others have pointed out, it is important to keep the trucks from leaving locomotives if possible, and the chains also accomplished that.

Safety chains were required on passenger trains to prevent the trucks from going through the sides or floors of the passenger cars and crushing the passengers in roll over derailments.  They were replaced by locking center pins on more modern passenger cars.  I once did an economic analysis of frame keys which retain roller bearing wheel sets on freight trucks if they are derailed.  What I found was that a derailment of any particular car was so rare that no money could be justified to address derailment damage reduction devices.

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