I'm looking for Lionel Catalogs from 2000 through 2011. Lionel used to have those on-line, but they used the now defunct FLASH and can no longer be accessed. Just trying to find someone that has them in a machinable form.
If anyone has a source, please let me know. 
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@gunrunnerjohn posted:I'm looking for Lionel Catalogs from 2000 through 2011. Lionel used to have those on-line, but they used the now defunct FLASH and can no longer be accessed. Just trying to find someone that has them in a machinable form.
If anyone has a source, please let me know.
GRJ,
Send me an email with your new address.
Lou N
I recall that LCCA has them grouped by decade. Unfortunately, the site is down for maintenance this weekend.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I'm looking for Lionel Catalogs from 2000 through 2011. Lionel used to have those on-line, but they used the now defunct FLASH and can no longer be accessed. Just trying to find someone that has them in a machinable form.
If anyone has a source, please let me know.
John,
For 2009, 2010, 2011, and newer here are the direct links to the PDF's (go to the link I posted down below the quote box to get to the forum page that this came from):
@Mellow Hudson Mike posted:Here are the direct links (no Adobe Flash) to the major, twice-a-year Lionel catalogs, in PDF form, from 2009 - present:
2009
Signature
http://catalogs.lionel.com/200...offline/download.pdf
Volume 2
http://catalogs.lionel.com/200...offline/download.pdf
2010
Signature
http://catalogs.lionel.com/201...offline/download.pdf
Volume 2
http://catalogs.lionel.com/201...offline/download.pdf
2011
Signature
http://catalogs.lionel.com/11s...offline/download.pdf
Volume 2
http://catalogs.lionel.com/11v...offline/download.pdf
2012
Signature
http://catalogs.lionel.com/12s...offline/download.pdf
Volume 2
http://catalogs.lionel.com/12v...offline/download.pdf
2013
Signature
http://catalogs.lionel.com/13s...offline/download.pdf
Volume 2
http://catalogs.lionel.com/13f...offline/download.pdf
2014
Signature
http://catalogs.lionel.com/14s...offline/download.pdf
Volume 2
http://catalogs.lionel.com/14v...offline/download.pdf
2015
Signature
http://catalogs.lionel.com/15s...offline/download.pdf
Volume 2
http://catalogs.lionel.com/15c2/offline/download.pdf
2016
Signature
http://catalogs.lionel.com/16c1/offline/download.pdf
Volume 2
http://catalogs.lionel.com/16c2/offline/download.pdf
2017
Signature
http://catalogs.lionel.com/17c1/offline/download.pdf
Volume 2
http://catalogs.lionel.com/17c2/offline/download.pdf
2018
Big Book
http://catalogs.lionel.com/18bb/offline/download.pdf
Volume 2
http://catalogs.lionel.com/18c2/offline/download.pdf
2019
Big Book
http://catalogs.lionel.com/19bb/offline/download.pdf
Volume 2
http://catalogs.lionel.com/19c2/offline/download.pdf
2020
Big Book
http://catalogs.lionel.com/202...offline/download.pdf
Volume 2
http://catalogs.lionel.com/202...offline/download.pdf
2021
Big Book
http://catalogs.lionel.com/202...offline/download.pdf
M.H.M.
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Mike
Lou, Do you have any suggestions where to find digital/hards copies of early MTH catalogues?
One of them had 3-4 pages on STEM aspects of model railroading. I need them for a project
at the local library.Pete
Thanks mike, that helps as I didn't have several of the 2009-2011 years. I have everything from 2012 and onward. Still trying to score stuff from 2008 and back to around 2000.
Some of the other misc 2009 and 2010 catalogs like RTR and Christmas here:
2009 Kline by Lionel here:
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Thanks mike, that helps as I didn't have several of the 2009-2011 years. I have everything from 2012 and onward. Still trying to score stuff from 2008 and back to around 2000.
Up until very recently 2000 through 2008, including K-Line by Lionel were still on the server, but not accessible by navigation from within the site. Several of us found them using advanced Google Search, which returned outside links to them. On the other hand these weren't PDF's but pseudo-catalogs that had the complete roster that you would find in the catalogs, but in web page form. So each "catalog" was actually a collection of web pages.
These probably wouldn't help because they weren't actual catalog pages. If however you wanted to know precisely what was in the corresponding paper catalog they might be sufficient.
For instance here's a screenshot of the Table of Contents web page from the 2000 Volume 2 pseudo-catalog. You used to be able to use this to navigate to individual pages for each of the cataloged products:
And here's a sample product page from 2008 Vol 1:
Unfortunately the links to all of the pseudo-catalogs were apparently removed sometime in the last few months, so even these are not accessible any longer, except to those of us who were able to capture them beforehand using a web page clipper utility (Print Edit WE, HTtrack, etc.).
Mike
Thanks all, I have filled out my dance card from 2009 and forward. Just have to find some of the earlier stuff, I can't believe nobody captured it.
@Chris Lord posted:
Thanks Chris, I'll be coming to Trainstock, gotta' get my T-shirt, right? 
@UnclePeteRR posted:Lou, Do you have any suggestions where to find digital/hards copies of early MTH catalogues?
One of them had 3-4 pages on STEM aspects of model railroading. I need them for a project
at the local library.Pete
Pete,
Here's where I got mine....
https://mthtrains.com/catalogs-new
Good luck with your STEM project. I teach courses in an "adult" version of STEM called MEMS, Micro Electro Mechanical Systems, at the local college. It is its own separate degree program (AS and BS) in engineering.
Regards,
Lou
I guess the take away here is not to trust that things you're interested in on the web will always be there. My car club's magazine is up on their web site now but who knows. I download them.
With the price of large drives available for storage dropping these days you might best download everything you think you might ever want to have and save it locally.
@UnclePeteRR posted:Lou, Do you have any suggestions where to find digital/hards copies of early MTH catalogues?
One of them had 3-4 pages on STEM aspects of model railroading. I need them for a project
at the local library.Pete
Pete,
When and if you find that catalog could you please forward a copy? I'm involved with the BSA STEAM projects and this would be very helpful.
My email is in my profile.
Thanks!
Yep, I've been capturing stuff from the web regularly, I have around 80 GB of different websites and documentation collected, "just in case". I just whiffed on Lionel, I thought they would be better than that, obviously I was mistaken. My main computer has 4 TB of disk space, so I'm not really concerned about running out of space. 
Yes, all of this is backed up several levels deep, including some totally off-line backup.
@UnclePeteRR posted:Lou, Do you have any suggestions where to find digital/hards copies of early MTH catalogues?
One of them had 3-4 pages on STEM aspects of model railroading. I need them for a project
at the local library.Pete
Digital copies of all the available MTH catalogs are still on their website here: https://mthtrains.com/catalogs-new (all the way back to 1993.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:My main computer has 4 TB of disk space, so I'm not really concerned about running out of space.
Piker!
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Yep, I've been capturing stuff from the web regularly, I have around 80 GB of different websites and documentation collected, "just in case". I just whiffed on Lionel, I thought they would be better than that, obviously I was mistaken. My main computer has 4 TB of disk space, so I'm not really concerned about running out of space.
4TB?? Didn't know they made them that small! lol
My main machine has 650TB. Then again I mine Chia so the more the merrier!
See you all tomorrow at Trainstock.
@Dennis-LaRock posted:Piker!
Well, I have another 6TB of off-line storage, not to mention the 5TB of NAS. Remember, I'm not hosting any external sites, this is just for my use. 
@UnclePeteRR posted:Lou, Do you have any suggestions where to find digital/hards copies of early MTH catalogues?
One of them had 3-4 pages on STEM aspects of model railroading. I need them for a project
at the local library.Pete
What years are you looking for as I believe they are all on MTH Web site if not let me know what years you are looking for and I may have them in paper form.
@Chris Lord posted:4TB?? Didn't know they made them that small! lol
My main machine has 650TB. Then again I mine Chia so the more the merrier!
See you all tomorrow at Trainstock.
650TB? I doubt it.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:650TB? I doubt it.
Doubt no more! 34 external USB drives of various sizes up to 18TB and 2 8x12TB Thunderbolt enclosures.
Looks like overkill to me Chris! Let's see, 650TB and looking at the Chia Calculator...
I think your electric bill probably eats up all the profits!
@Chris Lord posted:Doubt no more! 34 external USB drives of various sizes up to 18TB and 2 8x12TB Thunderbolt enclosures.
USB!!! Pony Express!!!!
Try a dozen of these Set up as RAID in three machines... RAID 0 in my box and RAID 1 for my servers... Sabrent 4TB Rocket NVMe PCIe M. 2 2280, 3D NAND flash memory, PCIe 3.1 x4 interface,3.45GB/s (read) and 3GB/s (write), 580,000 iOPS 4KB random read, and 650,000 iOPS 4KB random write speeds, MTBF (mean team between failures) of 1.8 million hours of operation.
CHOO CHOO
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Looks like overkill to me Chris!
I think your electric bill probably eats up all the profits!
That's true if I was doing it for current income. But I'm HODLing. Gonna be a billionaire some day! Lol
@Dennis-LaRock posted:USB!!! Pony Express!!!!
Try a dozen of these Set up as RAID in three machines... RAID 0 in my box and RAID 1 for my servers... Sabrent 4TB Rocket NVMe PCIe M. 2 2280, 3D NAND flash memory, PCIe 3.1 x4 interface,3.45GB/s (read) and 3GB/s (write), 580,000 iOPS 4KB random read, and 650,000 iOPS 4KB random write speeds, MTBF (mean team between failures) of 1.8 million hours of operation.
CHOO CHOO
Nice. USB is great for Chia. Very low IO requirements for harvesting. For some strange reason the USB drives are cheaper per TB than internal even though they are frequently the same drive. My ThunderBolt enclosures have schucked USB drives in them. My farming drive is a NVMe PCI v4. For farming TBW is very important. I'm up to 7 Petabytes without one failure.
@Chris Lord posted:That's true if I was doing it for current income. But I'm HODLing. Gonna be a billionaire some day! Lol
When the whole crypto market collapses, you'll be holding something, that's for sure.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:When the whole crypto market collapses, you'll be holding something, that's for sure.
Not me, I'm investing in Tulips ! j
@Chris Lord posted:
So great Chris! Like GRJ, I'd sure like to get my hands on 2000-2008 if someone has them................
RVB
@RichardVB posted:So great Chris! Like GRJ, I'd sure like to get my hands on 2000-2008 if someone has them................
RVB
A generous guy put them all on a DVD and shipped them to me. Given that act of kindness, I'll pay it forward, email me your address and I'll drop the DVD in the mail, I have captured the content and no longer need the DVD.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:A generous guy put them all on a DVD and shipped them to me. Given that act of kindness, I'll pay it forward, email me your address and I'll drop the DVD in the mail, I have captured the content and no longer need the DVD.
Hello John,
Is there any way you can post them here?
I'm certain a lot of folks would appreciate it.
Thanks!
I would also be interested in the missing years catalogs. I have the 2008 catalogs saved from HTtrack and would be willing to share them.
@Allegheny posted:Is there any way you can post them here?
I'm certain a lot of folks would appreciate it.
I have that feeling that I'd run afoul of the copyright police it I posted them. 
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I have that feeling that I'd run afoul of the copyright police it I posted them.
I would send an e-mail to the OGR Publisher at adman@ogaugerr.com and ask him what he thinks of posting catalogs here.
@paulp575 posted:I would send an e-mail to the OGR Publisher at adman@ogaugerr.com and ask him what he thinks of posting catalogs here.
I'm pretty sure I know the answer. When in doubt, err on the side of caution. It's hard to know what Lionel's stance would be on distributing old catalogs, they may have some sort of deal with a publisher to distribute them. Putting them on the forum, would doubtless be frowned upon for that reason. OGR probably doesn't want to get in the middle of something like this, they've already been burned, and I have to agree with that stance.
I always go the route of "can't hurt to ask".
Knowing that at one time HSL did all the Lionel catalogs from 1900 to ??? not sure Lionel would like these being posted.
Having said that, the HSL archive DVDs are no longer available so really don't know.
Ask the OGR guy.
"Knowing that at one time HSL did all the Lionel catalogs from 1900 to ??? ....................."
It would be nice to see these. How might one get these hands on the HSL information?
Hi Richard,
I am the author of the HSL Lionel Digital Archive products. All of these products are now available through the Lionel Collectors Club of America website (www.lionelcollectors.org). You can become an e-member for $25 and have immediate access to Lionel catalogs from 1900 - 1996. You will also have access to many prewar American Flyer and Ives catalogs along with a number of other publications.
Thank you John for letting us know.
@John Holtmann posted:Hi Richard,
I am the author of the HSL Lionel Digital Archive products. All of these products are now available through the Lionel Collectors Club of America website (www.lionelcollectors.org). You can become an e-member for $25 and have immediate access to Lionel catalogs from 1900 - 1996. You will also have access to many prewar American Flyer and Ives catalogs along with a number of other publications.
I presume the catalogs that are available from LCCA are the EXACT same as what I got on 2 of the 4 DVDs?
Access to this requires an OGR Forum Supporting Membership
