Ok, so Omaha is headquarters for UP. On display in Freedom Park is a very nicely kept Big Boy. So why did Lionel omit this one from the numbers to be produced in the new vision line?
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well first thought is the release after this with the newer latest greatest features they will have new engine numbers
available.
that way no confusion on what year each were made.
am sure they had a hard time deciding which ones to offer this round.
only my personal take on the matter.
$oo
available.
that way no confusion on what year each were made.
am sure they had a hard time deciding which ones to offer this round.
only my personal take on the matter.
$oo
I thought it was at Kenefick Park.
The Big Boy in Omaha is one of the 5 that were built in 1944 and this group was slightly different than the original 20. Lionel probably didn't want the confusion of producing seven models plus one slightly different one, and I'm sure they didn't want the heat they would get if they just slapped the 4023's number on what would be essentially the wrong model.
Lionel did the 4023 and 4024 in the original Legacy run, so I would tend to think that they will do them again some time in the future.
If I was a betting man, I would bet that we will see another release of Big Boys in 4 or 5 years when the 4014 is back running again.
Andy
That makes sense with the different models. I think it is Kenefick Park. thanks
Originally Posted by John Korling:
I thought it was at Kenefick Park.
Well yes, but it is at the Lauritze Gardens in the "New Kennefick Park".
UP Big Boy 2023 and Centennial 6900 are both on display at Kenefick Park, which is on the grounds of Lauritzen Gardens in Omaha. They were previously near Freedom Park and moved to the current location around 2004. Lauritzen Gardens will celebrate Railroad Days this year July 12 and 13. Omaha Modular Trains will have it's O gauge modular layout at the Gardens as we have every year since Kenefick Park opened. Lauritzen Gardens also has a G gauge garden layout year round.
Lionel have stated in their literature on this model that they have only made those from the original production run, and that these will be 'as-delivered'.
"Of the eight survivors, seven are from the original production run. Those seven locomotives, in their as-delivered configuration, are the prototypes for Lionel's newest model."
Originally Posted by N.Q.D.Y.:
Lionel have stated in their literature on this model that they have only made those from the original production run, and that these will be 'as-delivered'.
"Of the eight survivors, seven are from the original production run. Those seven locomotives, in their as-delivered configuration, are the prototypes for Lionel's newest model."
Well, THAT sure changes everything now, doesn't it. What with all the "excitement" surrounding the #4014 being removed from California, plus NONE of the 4000 class locomotives saved around the U.S. actually look like "their as-delivered configuration", does anybody think that customers just might be a bit upset when they discover that their nice new Vision Line model doesn't actually look like the photos of the locomotives currently on display?
Remember, those "as delivered cooling coils" mounted on the front deck of the first 20 locomotives, only last about 4 or 5 years.
Yeah and wasn't the generator moved from behind the drivers to ontop the boiler soon after delivery?
4015 was the experimental oil burner?
Originally Posted by Dominic Mazoch:
4015 was the experimental oil burner?
Don't think so.
Maybe Lionel will be smart and make the cooling coils customer removable? This is one reason why I'm waiting to see the catalog before ordering.
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
...does anybody think that customers just might be a bit upset when they discover that their nice new Vision Line model doesn't actually look like the photos of the locomotives currently on display?
I won't be, because all that matters to me is that it's a Big Boy. I actually like the fact that they are as delivered. Besides, I think most that would be ordering this anyway are not uninformed customers, but will be like us, railroad fans that know what as delivered means. And if you want the as at the end of revenue service look of the Big Boy, there is nothing stopping you from following UP's lead and modding your locomotive. Maybe you can even start a cottage industry by making and providing mod kits.
