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Part two of my photo shoot of OMI's SD70ACe's.

Photos: (c) Erik C Lindgren



Union Pacific Heritage Fleet #1989 "Rio Grande"

























A great project; one we should all cherish. To all of you involved in this project I send my sincere appreciation

to a job well done!


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True story at out local train show:

A guy came up looked at Rick Trinkle's Dash units running his worm train and insisted we were operating a larger scale than "o gauge" as he stated it. "That's not O gauge it's like larger is this gauge 1???, I have those same engines in O gauge MTH and they are the best you can buy..." He exclaimed - implying that his MTH models were spot on in the dimensions area. I corrected him and told him these were 1/48. His response to me was stand offish and furreled his brow and growled at me. "Those are not O gauge.. I know I'm a TCA member since 1995 and know O gauge when I see it; this is not O gauge!" I asked him politely to bring over a o gauge model and sit it on the track to prove it.. He walked away- rather mad.

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I feel bad at the fact some many fine models were produced by MTH to "fit the box" dimensions. I guess a handful were scale however by far most of these models were scale for some parts then shortened or truncated to assume some role as to fit a O-54 curve somewhere I don't know. This dynamic does not appear in HO like our scale. Still my models run on 1/45 track.

Go figure

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 I can't take anything away from these posted engines of OMI. They have every detail exactly like I see them. I would be proud to own them.

 

 I have never checked my MTH O gauge. I'm willing to bet that my modern premier diesel dimensions would be correct. They have modified many newer designs to please the eye's of scale modelers. I'm sure that there are exceptions and you may find them in models now demoted to their railking lineup.

 

 I have heard of their steam being modified because of the need to fit on normal basement sized O layouts. That leads to un-fair product bashing across the entire line-up. 

Originally Posted by Erik C Lindgren:
True story at out local train show:

A guy came up looked at Rick Trinkle's Dash units running his worm train and insisted we were operating a larger scale than "o gauge" as he stated it. "That's not O gauge it's like larger is this gauge 1???, I have those same engines in O gauge MTH and they are the best you can buy..." He exclaimed - implying that his MTH models were spot on in the dimensions area. I corrected him and told him these were 1/48. His response to me was stand offish and furreled his brow and growled at me. "Those are not O gauge.. I know I'm a TCA member since 1995 and know O gauge when I see it; this is not O gauge!" I asked him politely to bring over a o gauge model and sit it on the track to prove it.. He walked away- rather mad.

image

I feel bad at the fact some many fine models were produced by MTH to "fit the box" dimensions. I guess a handful were scale however by far most of these models were scale for some parts then shortened or truncated to assume some role as to fit a O-54 curve somewhere I don't know. This dynamic does not appear in HO like our scale. Still my models run on 1/45 track.

Go figure

I understand, Erik. I've been on the other end of it. Guy comes in during an open house and looks at my train full of Weaver and Atlas O scale cars (with scale wheels and Kadees yet) pulled by a pair of MTH U25's (also with scale wheels and Kadees) and says it's not scale sized (probably looked at that third rail and got confused). Was an H.O. modeler from a local club. I didn't have to correct him as a visitor was a former member of Citrus Empire O scale club and did it for me.

 

I guess it all depends on what bubble people live in.

 

The locomotives are beautiful, by the way. How do the newer OMI units run?

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They are Omi brass imports



Originally Posted by AGHRMatt:

       
Originally Posted by Erik C Lindgren:
True story at out local train show:

A guy came up looked at Rick Trinkle's Dash units running his worm train and insisted we were operating a larger scale than "o gauge" as he stated it. "That's not O gauge it's like larger is this gauge 1???, I have those same engines in O gauge MTH and they are the best you can buy..." He exclaimed - implying that his MTH models were spot on in the dimensions area. I corrected him and told him these were 1/48. His response to me was stand offish and furreled his brow and growled at me. "Those are not O gauge.. I know I'm a TCA member since 1995 and know O gauge when I see it; this is not O gauge!" I asked him politely to bring over a o gauge model and sit it on the track to prove it.. He walked away- rather mad.

image

I feel bad at the fact some many fine models were produced by MTH to "fit the box" dimensions. I guess a handful were scale however by far most of these models were scale for some parts then shortened or truncated to assume some role as to fit a O-54 curve somewhere I don't know. This dynamic does not appear in HO like our scale. Still my models run on 1/45 track.

Go figure

I understand, Erik. I've been on the other end of it. Guy comes in during an open house and looks at my train full of Weaver and Atlas O scale cars (with scale wheels and Kadees yet) pulled by a pair of MTH U25's (also with scale wheels and Kadees) and says it's not scale sized (probably looked at that third rail and got confused). Was an H.O. modeler from a local club. I didn't have to correct him as a visitor was a former member of Citrus Empire O scale club and did it for me.

 

I guess it all depends on what bubble people live in.

 

The locomotives are beautiful, by the way. How do the newer OMI units run?

They are at the low end of brass.  Look up pricing for Key or Kohs to really give you sticker shock.
 
For the detail you get in these OMI sd70ace's, its probably worth it.  But out of my price range.
 
Originally Posted by Jeff T:

I've never heard of Overland Models so I looked them up. Based on the pricing I saw those are definitely for the "sophisticated" railroader. No lunch bucket crowd need apply!! 

 

All kidding aside, they are certainly well done pieces!

 

Trains is like art! A wealthy man once taught me "It is better to invest in one GREAT piece of art, than have several average pieces. I hear many modelers say that they cannot afford a very well detailed brass locomotive like Overland, Kohs, Key, etc., but yet they keep purchasing inaccurate average models like mth. I cannot imagine people Ohhhing and Awwwing at ordinary art in a museum. I believe Erik has made the point by the photos that he has posted. Great job Erick!.

Stephen

Originally Posted by Martin H:
They are at the low end of brass.  Look up pricing for Key or Kohs to really give you sticker shock.
 
For the detail you get in these OMI sd70ace's, its probably worth it.  But out of my price range.
 
Originally Posted by Jeff T:

I've never heard of Overland Models so I looked them up. Based on the pricing I saw those are definitely for the "sophisticated" railroader. No lunch bucket crowd need apply!! 

 

All kidding aside, they are certainly well done pieces!

 

Now you've got me afraid to look!! 

I have never  made profits on brass models. They are not good investments. Like plastic models one gets what one can get. I have heard of great money paid for models that were produced in very limited runs. I guess less than 5 but overall buy for the enjoyment and not the profits. Want to make money go to securities.

That said, i do enjoy the brass models to look at for their super appearances and rotate the few I own to a dust covered display track above my desk. Right now showing a Prec. DD40 and an overland SD 40-2. Just enough space for the 2.  

 

Phil

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Availability would be zero.  They only did one run and they didn't make any extras.  And I understand that was the last o-scale diesel OMI will ever do.
 
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
 
 
 
Originally Posted by mwb:
Originally Posted by christopher N&W:

The models are pretty jaw-dropping. The photos are well done too.

Yes.  Cost & availability?

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Martin H:
Availability would be zero.  They only did one run and they didn't make any extras.  And I understand that was the last o-scale diesel OMI will ever do.
 
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
 
 
 
Originally Posted by mwb:
Originally Posted by christopher N&W:

The models are pretty jaw-dropping. The photos are well done too.

Yes.  Cost & availability?

 

 

 

So, nice pictures............

Posted on their website last August:
 
"Greetings and thank you for your interest in Overland Models. I regret the lengthy time between updates and wish that I had some more definitive updates to offer.  The economy and changes with business here and in Korea have resulted in a dramatic slow down. We remain hopeful for some changes to occur that will break the rust. We continue to take steps to build things back up but as of this moment we are stalled. Once things begin to move forward we will remove the TBA from the delivery projections and replace them with honest projected delivery dates.

Respectfully,

Brian Marsh"

 
 
Sooo... don't hold your breath.
 
Originally Posted by Erik C Lindgren:
Originally Posted by Swafford:
       

Hi Erik,

 

Just curious.............Is Brian at Overland planning on presenting any more SD70ACe's?

 

Regards,

Frank

I don't know.

I sure think they are amazing models. Truly the finest diesels ever produced. Too bad they are modern.

 

Last edited by Martin H
Originally Posted by Ed Kelly:

       

Amazing models!  Thanks Erik.

 

I, too, would like to know how they run.

 

Regards,

Ed


       

This model has been test run about 3 feet. However I have seen others from the same run...run. Glass smooth quiet. Rick Trinkle is doing all DC in his with ESU as he has in his thread for the ultimate diesel in O scale.

I'm not a modern modeler either, but man..... someone needs to grab the bull by the horns in the world of intermodal equipment. All these ES44s, and SD70's are begging for stacks and pigs. Model cranes (not toy cranes), hostler trucks, chassis, 53' well 3 packers, TTAX, TTRX, DTTX 5 packers.... C' Mon Man.... its a HUGE market and they are missing the boat.

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