Opinion on Williams locomotives

As you can see, I got off of the Question about Williams Engines. I cannot remember when they first were Offerred, 1970's I believe. Either way, I ordered an Undecorated SD 40 or at least it was a large Diesel, from Peter Bianco, TrainWorld...By accident they sent me a 2 rail version...Of course I returned it and they promptly sent me a replacement. Hale Meacham, Meacham Variety Stire, Nashville, Tennessee painted it L&N for me. It would pull so many cars and ran flawlessly... 

Williams Trains are great runners, perfect for museum layouts. They can run for hours and hours, and The Lionel Post War Engines with pul mor motors had to be fixed and fixed. Williams by Bachman, will probably be the Best Williams to Date..

I think pre-owned Williams are a good buy, especially when you can find one in like new condition...Williams is where Mike Wolf got his start, Wow.....

This hobby is the Best, there is a Train For Every Collector/Operator...Enjoy the Hobby.

My train club had a train show this weekend.  Our Williams engines just ran and ran.  They are the most reliable runners for showing off trains at shows.  We also run Lionel trains with command systems.  I think Williams engines are wonderful.

Joe 

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I have a Williams Geep that I was running last night and it slowed down as the rollers were very dirty then clean it.  The GP-9 ran well again but in few minutes later it would slow down again and got very warm so I removed the rollers and replaced with the Williams caboose truck pick-up rollers and cleaned the axle pins. The rollers were little bit bigger and seems to "roll" better than the small ones that came with the engine.  The Geep ran well once again after about 30 hours of running time on it with the new rollers.  It take very little work if any to make a Williams diesel keep on running.  This budget Geep is a keeper !! I am GLAD to have one.

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Williams is USUALLY 100% reliable out of the box but the last two Williams products that I purchased required some minor fixes. On my F7 engine the horn stopped working and this was traced to adjustment pot that the factory had neglected to lock in place after the initial horn volume adjustment. The other was the Broadway Limited aluminum car set that was derailing. We found several pieces of telephone cable wedged in the contact roller brackets. Both problems were solved after an hour or so but they shouldn't happen. If it is cleaned and lubricated occasionally; once a Williams engine is running right it should last many years.

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they run great if properly lubed.

I have 3 and pulled motors off all gear boxes and found

little to no grease in them. lube em up and they run like tops.

I own 3 WBB locos, a CNJ NW2 and 2 44 Toners, NH and B&O, the NW2's sound unit I think's been acting up, making a buzzing noise but then it goes away, otherwise units and great value.

I had a Trainmaster start growling right out of the box.  Dry as a bone.  I guess they just ran out of grease at the factory.

A lot of guys tell me they love the way the Williams engines pull, run and last. Most of all their affordable.

I have a Williams instruction sheet that stated the units were not (or at least only minimally) lubed at the factory to prevent lubricant from migrating to painted surfaces during shipping.

Mine (9 powered units) have been bulletproof so far*, aside from the hokey first-gen True-Blast horns.

*other than the single-motor E-60 that overheated and stalled pulling 6 Amfleet cars, and had to be assisted by a diesel to finish a video session, but I cured that with the help of Ott machine Svcs.

---PCJ

I run eight trains on my layout, three of which are Williams.  I always liked their reliability.  One of them I purchased used at a train show and, unfortunately, after a year the E-unit gave out.  Given the fact that is was an older model and used did not detract from my opinion, however.  I tried to have it repaired locally which was not fruitful.  I contacted Bachmann who indicated that for 20 bucks or so they would fix it.  Well, there was no replacement E-unit for an engine that old.  So guess what they did for 20 bucks?  The gave me an entirely new chassis.  Now that's really standing behind your product!  And the time wait was minimal.  I go Williams all the way for traditional running engines.

That is outstanding for Bachmann to fix an engine that is old, or to replace the whole chassis.

However I never had a problem with a Williams engine that could not fix myself. I have about 12 powered engines by Williams and will buy more when I can.

Lee Fritz

I only have one Williams engine - a BL-2 - along with 2 from MTH and one from Lionel. I picked up my BL-2 for $100, new. The horn sound was pretty bad, it lacks engine sounds and out of the box the think accelerated like a rocket when run from a conventional transformer. But here's the thing: for $205 I was able to order a Cruise Commander and RailSounds Commander from ERR which took less than an hour to install. Now I have a TMCC locomotive with great sound for just over $300. That price tag barely gets you a conventional powered Lionel locomotive. 

If I see an old Williams box at a train show, I stop, look and consider.  They are wonderful.  If it is a newer WBB, would still buy if offerred at a great price.  I have ~10 Williams motive units (1 steam, rest diesel) and they are reliable and trouble free.

For me, it is MTH, Williams (original or WBB) and Weaver.  And a bunch of RMT Buddies and Speeders.  All conventional, all work.

Williams will always get my attention as I said before they look great and are very affordable not cheap looking. The biggie for me is that they are kid friendly my son runs  them everyday and they keep on going. We have learned to lubricate them and clean the wheels up and they run great.

Yes Lionel has good stuff too. The Lionchief system is a home run and a real shot in the arm for the hobby, the kids love it even my wife stuck around for awhile when she saw them runnin around. The synchronized chuff and smoke is awesome!!!

It gets wow's all the time.

On a personal level I will get my first MTH Locomotive when the German BM-44 comes out. Personal becuz I was an exchange student in East Germany before the wall came down and road trains pulled by those BM-44's plus I LOVE the unique sound of European whistles and bells!!!