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So I called Pat's Trains yesterday afternoon (Wednesday) to inquire about a purchase.  The item was still listed as "pre-order" status on the website , but MTH is shipping the item to dealers as we speak.  So while it didn't quite qualify for the sale Pat is running right now, we agreed on a fair price for this new locomotive... and I figured it would be a few days before Pat receives his stock from MTH and ships my locomotive.  Here's what transpired after I hung up the phone at 2:30pm...

  • 2:51pm:  order confirmation email thanking me for the order.
  • 4:20pm:  SHIPPING confirmation email, indicating the order will "drop-ship" DIRECTLY from MTH's warehouse in Columbia, MD.
  • 5:36pm:  FedEx shipping confirmation email, indicating the package is now in transit after pick-up at MTH.

 

WOW!!!  Talk about exceeding my expectations!!!    But there's more...

  • Last night, I requested FedEx route the package to a FedEx shipping center / print shop in town about 2 miles from my residence.  When I'm not sure of my schedule, I often do this so I can sign for and pick up packages at a convenient point in the day.
  • At 10:37am today (Thursday), I get a text message from FedEx indicating my package from MTH is ready for pick-up at the local FedEx shipping center.

 

Double-WOW!!!!  So not even 24 hours elapse, and I go from ordering the locomotive via the phone to the package arriving at the local FedEx center for me to pick up the next morning.  And I haven't even left my house yet!!!      Had I not requested the FedEx hold, the package would have likely been at my front door already... but I wasn't certain if I'd be home this morning to accept the package -- which I like to do this time of the year.

 

Thanks, Pat... for a very pleasant transaction and exceptional customer service!!!  And to MTH for the quick follow-thru on the shipping end.  And to FedEx for working their magic where the rubber meets the road.  

 

All of this has me thinking though, "Why haven't these order-processing logistics become a more "normal mode of operation" nowadays... namely, dealers and LHS's processing orders, but the products just ship directly from the importer -- especially the more expensive BTO items?  Seems that would save unnecessary shipping (i.e., reducing overall costs AND minimizing product glitches due to excessive shipping).  Now I realize there are certain advantages for dealers and/or LHS's to warehouse their own inventory on certain items for walk-in service at the brick-and-mortar store.  But I can easily see where drop-shipping directly from the importer might become a more stream-lined operation for fulfilling BTO items.

What do other folks here think?

David

 

 

 

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C W Burfle posted:

 But I can easily see where drop-shipping directly from the importer might become a more stream-lined operation for fulfilling BTO items.

If the importer gets geared up to ship directly to individual customers, then they might as well cut out the retailer.

Not if they expect to sell at MSRP!!!    The importers are very likely already losing a bunch of customers with current MSRP pricing being where it is nowadays.

Most of the importers have nurtured a healthy dealer network for years/decades now -- from pre-order BTO sales to post-sale customer service.  The last importer to cut out the retailer after-the-fact didn't fare to well in the industry when looking at the overall big picture. 

The negatives would far outweigh any potential positives here, CW.  More likely that drop-shipping en masse might lead to more direct sales between a small LHS and the importer (instead of working through a big distributor).  But even in that scenario, a big distributor is also helping the importer offload warehouse inventory to make room for new product arrivals -- something that's often overlooked by consumers.  So it's a delicate balance all around.  Gotta always be thinking win-win -- not win-lose.

David

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Pat is clearly the best and I will gladly drive an hour to visit his store even though there are a couple of train shops within 15 minutes of my house. His customer service is exemplary and his selection/prices can't be beat.

Since he is located in Wheeling, WV and I pass Washington, PA on I-70 coming and going it gives me a reason to hit the Krispy Kreme donut shop in Washington. Awesome trains and the best donuts around - that's a win-win the way I see it!

That's a neat story, and not at all surprising. We've been in the store and seen Pat literally running around to get a late order ready so it can go out that day. If you want it and he can get it, he'll find a way to get it to you.

If you're anywhere near Wheeling or passing through on I-70, you really ought to stop and look (and visit with George the parrot.)

The negatives would far outweigh any potential positives here, CW.

I wasn't suggesting that any of the importers do it.
Lionel has tried direct sales a few times.
Remember the 784 Hudson and cars?
Century Club (I)
And Century Club II.

I was a member of Century Club (I), in the end, all I purchased were the box cars.
I should have skipped on them too.

I did pick up two of the 784 Hudsons, at a greatly reduced price.
I'd like to have the cars that were sold in the same program, but not at the current market price. They'd have to come down quite a bit more.

Can I add one more? I ordered a tinplate set (384 Blue Comet) for around the Christmas tree a while back. I wanted more track than just the circle included with the set. I misread the description and ordered the old style tinplate track. The next morning, I have a message from Pat on my cell phone asking me to call him. He informed me of my error and we got the correct track!  

Pat is great! I really enjoyed visiting his store in person in August 2015 on the final leg of a San Francisco to Potomac, MD road trip.

I've ordered plenty of things from him. Once I fat fingered my CC number and almost immediately, Pat's wife called to get everything cleared up. Great folks!

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jim sutter posted:

It's so nice to read about a forum sponsor providing fantastic customer service. Being there for your customers is what it is all about. A good dealer is always there during the sell but a great dealer is there after the sell. Good job Pat.

I completely agree. The problem (if you can call it that) is choosing which one to use, since there are so many good forum sponsors that provide great customer service.

Not his fault, but I am kind of bummed.  I just talked with him since I received my Lionel SD60 First Responder and the front pilot was smashed and cracked.  So, I got this for my son since he loves this engine and has the T-shirt and everything.  So I thought great Christmas present.  When I talked with Pat he said I would have to send it back to Lionel.  I guess no Christmas present for my son this year.  Bah hum bug.

John Hon posted:

Not his fault, but I am kind of bummed.  I just talked with him since I received my Lionel SD60 First Responder and the front pilot was smashed and cracked.  So, I got this for my son since he loves this engine and has the T-shirt and everything.  So I thought great Christmas present.  When I talked with Pat he said I would have to send it back to Lionel.  I guess no Christmas present for my son this year.  Bah hum bug.

Is the damage localized to a part that can be replaced quickly and easily?  A couple of years ago, I located Lionel's Polar Railroad SD80MAC at a hobby shop in Michigan.  When it arrived, the front snow-plow was broken.  I called Lionel parts, and they shipped me a replacement part at no cost which I received within a couple of days.

Check out the parts diagram and give it a try... unless we're talking about more serious damage.

David

John Hon posted:

Not his fault, but I am kind of bummed.  I just talked with him since I received my Lionel SD60 First Responder and the front pilot was smashed and cracked.  So, I got this for my son since he loves this engine and has the T-shirt and everything.  So I thought great Christmas present.  When I talked with Pat he said I would have to send it back to Lionel.  I guess no Christmas present for my son this year.  Bah hum bug.

Hey, John

Please ship the engine back to the store and I will get you a new one out as soon as I get the damaged one back.

Thanks

Pat

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