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Originally Posted by Norm:

John was way ahead of the market with his products.   Pecos John had some super stuff.

 

Norm Rish

Indeed he had !!!! I am still drooling about his 2-6-2 ATSF Prairie engine. Just to think what such a beautiful engine would be with a modern and more reliable chassis and motor.....
 Sighs.

 

Yves

 

I am still drooling about his 2-6-2 ATSF Prairie engine.

Yves -  Have you ever read "From a Sow's Ear to a Silk Purse", by Gary Schrader?  He goes through one of those Prairies and does one fine job of turning it in to a work of art.

 

http://www.oscalemag.com/docs/ost_30.pdf

 

It's too bad John couldn't hang in there a bit longer.  His next project was the diesel power for the first Super Chief, not to mention all the great products he brought to market. 

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Now if only someone would bring in the Santa Fe heavyweight passenger cars.  The Pecos River cars are fantastic but try and put together a train set of them at the prices they are going for nowadays. I would settle for plastic bodies for them.  I like the look of that bottom sill that ran the length of the car. 

 

Steve

I passed up a PRB steamer a few years ago in poor condition.  The seller said "make an offer".  I was simply unable to see how I could make it robust enough without starting over, so I passed.

 

Didn't they make a full train of heavyweights?  I assume the passenger cars were at least as sturdy as the PSC cars.

Originally Posted by Ed Kelly
After John closed the importing business, he continued to sell models out of his inventory via mail order and on Ebay. He also is still producing and selling his line of plastic buildings and building components. A couple of summers ago, I helped him and others tear down the "O" scale layout on the upper floor of his building. He moved his remaining inventory to his home, and was preparing to sell the building. John still lives in the north Dallas area. I run into him at train shows from time to time. His big passion now is music. He is heavily involved in a band called "Pecos River Brass". Rather appropriate, don't you think?
Jeff

Beautiful pix.  Whatever happened to PRB and John Smith?

Ed

 

I think this will be fixed if you go into Settings --> Photos & Camera --> and then scroll to the bottom and turn off the "Keep Normal Photo" option.
 
Originally Posted by Erik C Lindgren:
Speaking of smartphones my inglorious iPhone 5s likes to completely screw up in this ogr forum. It's rather funny actually. No idea why it doubles up on the attachments.

 

The 6 window RPO car was painted by Gary Schrader 

These models were not factory painting from the 1980's.

That's very interesting.  If Gary Schrader had a hand in it, it can't be wrong.  I don't know if I've ever seen that car before. 

 

I'm used to the greens on the combines above.  I did see that Tru-Color had a Santa Fe Heavyweight Green listed.  I was going to order some to check it out.

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Originally Posted by mowingman:
Originally Posted by Ed Kelly
After John closed the importing business, he continued to sell models out of his inventory via mail order and on Ebay. He also is still producing and selling his line of plastic buildings and building components. A couple of summers ago, I helped him and others tear down the "O" scale layout on the upper floor of his building. He moved his remaining inventory to his home, and was preparing to sell the building. John still lives in the north Dallas area. I run into him at train shows from time to time. His big passion now is music. He is heavily involved in a band called "Pecos River Brass". Rather appropriate, don't you think?
Jeff

Beautiful pix.  Whatever happened to PRB and John Smith?

Ed

 

Is he still part of the O Scale Kings?

 

He may have mellowed out over the past few years otherwise be ready for an earful if you bring up his brass importing business.  He did a series of articles for O Scale Trains called "Crapola from the cupola".  People asked him to do things no one else would and he did them.  But he didn't think though sales prices and when stuff showed up most people thought they were crazy expensive and so they didn't sell.  I think he lost money on most of his projects and because of this he used income from his hobby business to cover it until there wasn't any more.

I think I like the 6 window RPO a little better. However looking at the photos of the 1:1 cars both color and black and white varying shades of the ATSF fleet was common.. A key element here is to have a brownish/Yellow tint in the green for the ATSF Coach Green.. a warm green rather than the cool Pullman Green. I think they are both right in many ways.

 

Not to put to fine a point on it--- a monitor is a terrible way to make assessments on color temperature or hue. Not an opinion....

 

Its all good- 

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Some of those photos look real.  And I do like the coach olive - I always have a hard time getting a green that I like.  I use a lot of Scale Coat GN green.  Protocraft has some new accurate SP paint.

 

On the business model: usually a successful business continues, or grows.  I know absolutely nothing about business - I used to try and figure out how we could take a loaded Airbus from Las Vegas to Boston with every seat filled with $400 passengers and make money.  I am baffled by folks who pay big bucks for a kit-making endeavor, knowing that they cannot fill the kit box and ship for anywhere near what a used kit would bring at a show.  I would never try what Scott Mann is successfully doing.

 

I think the way you do it is to figure that in the limit the gizmo will cost you $500 to build, the market is $499, not counting shipping, and you make up for it in volume.

That's awesome I didn't know Dave did any with those.

It's the only one.  I requested it, Roger was able to arrange it, and Dave was nice enough to build it.  I've always loved this photo.  I was going to buy a model of the Albuquerque station and try to model it, but changed my mind.  I decided to model the fueling operation and use my station.  I have one PRB tank car and am looking for a second.  I also been trying to find out how eastbound diesel powered trains were serviced.

 

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 What I would do to get her in the studio!! Wow

 

I tentative plans to visit my son in Denver this summer.  If we drive, which is likely, I could bring it along.  I also have an E6B.  Check my profile and send me your email and we can try to make plans.  

 

Howard 

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