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We check phasing on our main power, "track power" transformers by connecting the  coms and then touching the hot's together to see if there is a spark, or not.  We are seeing some problems with non-derail circuits on Ross turnouts and suspect a phasing problem between the 18V track power and the 16 V turnout power. Is this possible, and if so how do you check phasing between the track power transformers and the turnout and uncoupler transformers? 

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Good question.. I still find it confusing at times but here goes...

As you mentioned  .   Join the transformer  commons together (usually the "U"  connections )

 Try and set  the " hots" on each transformer  handle to around the same voltage.  Say 18 volts.

Now measure the voltage between  transformer  handles , hot to hot... If it's really  low the  transformers are in phase . If around 40 volts the transformers are out of phase.

THE non derailing feature must share the common as the track common....

We're using 8 post war ZW an a KW or 2  so it's a little easier .

What do you have for power? 

Did you try connecting the commons on the 16 volt transformer  and the brick  together?... You won't be able to change the Bricks voltage ,  perhaps  the 16 volt AC transformers as well , Touching the Hots may give a higher voltage  (say 4 or 5)  if in phase but if you get 35 or so they are out of phase....

 Does the non derailing feature work at all? 

DennisB posted:

Phase doesn't matter if there is no other connection between the  power sources other than the common. 

True enough.    The 16 volt transfomer's common is just a  long for a ride on the 180ACs common..... .   The 180s should be phased though.

 , If you ever wanted to use the 16 volt transformer for additional track power  someplace it would have to be phased.

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