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Those of you that have read my posts over the years know I've always had a love of LGB. I have a small LGB set that hasn't run in years and is in somewhat rough condition. 

I've been tempted to pick up another new LGB set, the Stainz. The Red/Creme version recently produced in Hungary seems easy to get. Anyone have any comments on it? I've always loved the Stainz! I've always thought of LGB as the"Mercedes Benz" of toy trains in quality and longevity. 

The primary point of my post - I stopped by my local "chain" hobby store to drop off some flyers for a local train show coming up in a few weeks. I mentioned to the store manager I was thinking of another G gauge set for around the Christmas tree. This store was once a very, very large LGB dealer. Now they sell a lot of PIKO. Not familiar with their stuff. Can anyone comment on the quality? I think the engines look kind of cheap personally but the store manager said they used to make buildings, etc for LGB and their stuff is very good. Not quite on the same level as the old LGB stuff from Germany but very close. Would appreciate any comments on the quality/durability of these items. 

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PIKO makes a very good product but it is not the level of quality from LGB Germany days.  PIKO is produced in Germany and does have great value for your dollar compared to what some LGB sets run.  However, the LGB red/cream set you are talking about I have seen some dealers advertising a price around $299 for the set and it has sound/lights/smoke for the Stainz.  That is a very good deal even though the sound on a Stainz engine is not the same as one of the Moguls, but again you get sound!  The set comes with track and transformer so a very good deal compared to the pricing when LGB Germany was in business.  If you were really considering only getting one set then I personally would go the LGB route.

Even LGB by Marklin I can tell a difference from my stuff from the Germany days.  The Germany product was in my opinion where the bar was set at.  Marklin still does a good job and still makes some pieces that I get each year.  I have the Christmas Piko sets/cars and pleased with them as an alternative to LGB.  I will not however be shifting the majority of my collecting to them for as stated before, good but still not the LGB level of detail that I prefer.

The PIKO track is spot on though and on par with LGB as far as I am concerned for it looks the same and interchangeable.  A PIKO set still would not be a bad purchase, but just realize that it is not LGB but still good in quality for what it is, does and costs overall.  But depending on who is using the train, yes if handled improperly the PIKO would most likely damage before LGB would.

Hope this helps.

David

Thanks folks for the info, good to have some advice without the sales pitch thrown in. I want a European set, not an American set. I see Piko offers some Euro stuff but LGB is, of course, the go-to for European.

I'll have to keep my eye out for the Stainz set. I agree, the $299 price tag is good. If the sound (really a static chuff) is the same as it was in the 1990s, it isn't terrible but it isn't very good!

Thanks again for the advice. Once I recover (ha!) from York, I'll turn my attention to LGB. Sure do miss the old school LGB from Germany....what great stuff that was!

I pretty much agree with the comments already posted. In my long years in the hobby, I have consistently ranked LGB and Marklin as firms offering the highest-quality general market electric trains. LGB quality was hard to beat and the current product, at least in my experience, appears to be equally good. You'll find a good selection of Large Scale product at Trainworld. Didn't see a $299 LGB set there when I checked this morning, but their pricing is still very good. Large Scale garden railroading has long been a favorite part of the hobby for me, and if I ever move to a home with a decent fenced-in yard again, you'll most likely find me out building another garden pike. I have plenty of LGB to run on it, that's for sure. Have not purchased a Piko train set, but I have owned and built a good number of their excellent building kits over many years.

kenv posted:

lgb is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You apparently never owned a overprced LGB Mikado that will continuously tear up its gear train after a few hours of run time??

Sorry but I'll take the USA Trains Prestige series with all metal gear trains anyday...esp. the cute lil' 0-6-0 die-cast metal Docksider! Or the AML 0-6-0...another cute lil' loco!

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