Marty,
I have several older subway Loco sound ps1 motor cars. How hard will it be to go from a Loco sound power car to a ps3? I would love the fact that we could do a lash up of 3 motor cars and 15 non powered ones. That will be awesome. All working together and not against one another.
Not hard, easier than PS-1 since Loco sounds had motors with flywheels, G
Can someone tell me which chain file to load? There are four files when I unzipped the chain file. Do I load them all?
If so, Is there a certain order?
I'm not getting control of the lights and believe it's in the chain files? I already loaded the Evo sound file. It runs but the lights won't respond to soft keys.
There are some lights that don't light? The rear markers are on in reverse but the front don't light at all for example.
I loaded all four chain files in the order they appeared. It worked so I am good.
Joe,
You did some extra work, since the Chain File .zip archive is meant to be the actual input to the Loader Program.
While you can do as you did and, after unzipping the .zip file archive, load each file in turn, it's much easier to simply select the .zip file as the input file. The Loader Program will then unzip the archive and automatically process each file, one after the other.
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Someday Barry, I will get it right! See what I get for being cheap! I didn't upgrade to 3rd edition of your book.
The loader didn't see the whole ES44Evo file until I in-zipped it and saved that again to my key chain drive. I thought I had to in-zip all of it.
Maybe it's my old computer not showing it?
You unzip the downloaded file, it gives you a sound file and the chain files in another ZIP file. Then you point the loader at those to upload to the engine, you don't unpack the second ZIP file.
gunrunnerjohn posted:You unzip the downloaded file, it gives you a sound file and the chain files in another ZIP file. Then you point the loader at those to upload to the engine, you don't unpack the second ZIP file.
I got that much from what Barry had posted John.
When I used my old computer to load the files, it did not show them? I had to go upstairs and unzip them for that computer to recognize them on that removable drive card.
I can only guess that it's a older windows XP or 7 issue?
I have now found extra charging lights are on unused pins #7 & #9 for rear ditch lights.
GRJ, you were right. The ps3 board does seem to take care of the sequence of the charging lights.
God, I hate my voice!
Joe,
I installed pins w/wires in slots 7/9 for rear ditch lites on a NS Heritage Reading SD70 (20-20271-1)
using a PS3 diesel upgrade board and for some reason they do not work. Am going to troubleshoot tomorrow.
bruce
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Engineer-Joe posted:gunrunnerjohn posted:You unzip the downloaded file, it gives you a sound file and the chain files in another ZIP file. Then you point the loader at those to upload to the engine, you don't unpack the second ZIP file.
I got that much from what Barry had posted John.
When I used my old computer to load the files, it did not show them? I had to go upstairs and unzip them for that computer to recognize them on that removable drive card.
I can only guess that it's a older windows XP or 7 issue?
You don't have to know what's inside the second ZIP, it's all taken care of by the loader. You just point at it when you upload the FLASH code and it automagically unpacks it and loads them all. I've loaded them on Win7 and Win10 the same way. Everything here is Win10 now, but when I was using Win7 they worked the same way.
bruce benzie posted:Joe,
I installed pins w/wires in slots 7/9 for rear ditch lites on a NS Heritage Reading SD70 (20-20271-1)
using a PS3 diesel upgrade board and for some reason they do not work. Am going to troubleshoot tomorrow.
bruce
They have to be enabled in the sound file and/or chain file in order to function. I suspect that some configurations don't have them enabled.
One thing I did note while loading each chain file, is that the lighting functions kept changing. The beacon did not work at first. Then, it came on with a load. Finally, it is back off again when the final chain file loaded.
I swapped the marker lights while searching for why the green front ones didn't light? When I plugged them into the rear socket they lit. So I put the red into the front socket and they lit too? I think they're just messing with me!!! ????
So Bruce, it seems important to find a soundfile and chain file that supports the functions you're after as GRJ stated.
and finally, another video....
Remember that if your wiring the LEDs yourself, they are reversed from PS2 I believe. The assigned pins are hot and the return to ground is thru the purple.
However smoke and couplers are different!!
I'm planning to use a PS3 upgrade kit to replace a bad PS2 board on a Premier Triplex. When I right click on the associated upgrade sound file, I get a screen full of symbols. No zip file. When I click on a PS3 sound file for a later Triplex engine, I get a zip file to save. But MTH instructions say I should only use PS2 files. What am I dong wrong?
PS3 steam upgrade kit uses PS2 sound files, with no zip file.
I just picked an early PS/2 model, this one: https://mthtrains.com/20-3069-1
I clicked on the Upgrade link and got this file.
pr_triplex_011129c_final_3v.mth
I'm not sure what you're doing wrong, but you may have to right click and select "save as" to get it properly.
The PS/3 Steam Upgrade uses the 3V PS/2 files, do NOT load the chain files.
That is the same upgrade that I'm trying to save. When I right click on yoor upgrade link I don't get an option to save as
When I tried to save your file, it saved it as a PDF.
Bob, I use Firefox. If I left click on GRJ's link, I get another window with the option to save it.
Bob, you need to configure your browser for file types. What are you using. I tried it with Firefox, Chrome, and Microsoft EDGE, all of them were able to download the file properly by just right clicking on it and saving the link as...
I had that same issue when I upgraded to windows ten and the edge browser. The only way I could get the file, to be able to load, someone sent it to me in an email. (Barry or Marty?)
Joe, for EDGE I just go to the MTH page, select the Support tab, and right click on the ProtoSound Upgrade icon. I get the following drop-down, I select Save target as and I get the proper .MTH file. Below is the display I get in Microsoft EDGE.
I thought if you just save the target, you are saving where the web page is? That didn't work for me as I load downstairs with an old machine that is not connected to the internet. Maybe I'm wrong, again?
Thanks for all your help. AOL and Google Chrome don't work. I get save target as with Microsoft explorer. But it wants to save it as a Adobe Acrobat file. I don't think that is right.
I absolutely love that these kits are out! It’s so nice to have so much money in these newer engines and they never become obsolete. Thank you mth for doing as much for operators as possible! Means a lot!
Hey guys-
I'm considering upgrading a few of my PS1 diesel locomotives to PS3 and am looking into sourcing an upgrade kit (50-1912). I recall in the past that MTH club members received a discount on the upgrade kits when ordering directly from MTH, however when I look at the MTHRRC details on MTH's site I don't see any mention of it. Does anyone know if that discount is still available for members and if so, how much each kit would cost?
Thanks!
mattrain posted:Hey guys-
I'm considering upgrading a few of my PS1 diesel locomotives to PS3 and am looking into sourcing an upgrade kit (50-1912). I recall in the past that MTH club members received a discount on the upgrade kits when ordering directly from MTH, however when I look at the MTHRRC details on MTH's site I don't see any mention of it. Does anyone know if that discount is still available for members and if so, how much each kit would cost?
Thanks!
I bought one last fall as a MTHRRC member at the discount price. I want to say it was $175.
Various vendors have them as well: http://allaboardtrains1.com/50prso3diupk.html
We are an ASC for MTH and I cant seem to find any correspondence from Jeff or Jason which lists the different part numbers for proto 3.0 steam in tender boards. I've checked with what service bulletins along with the common parts listing and I cannot find and reference to any PS3/2 part numbers (similar to Marty's original post which started this thread). Am I missing a service bulletin ? also could you tell me the part numbers for the Proto 3.0 steam boards that go in the tender ?
Thanks to all
I'd contact Jason directly.
PS-32 Steam Upgrade board in the PS-3 Steam Kit is AE-100035-3V as a repair part, but this will require a turn in part. G
Hi folks
I'm back after a few years. The PS3 upgrades look neat. I read the whole thread. I've done a Williams GG1 PS 2 install and MTH GP9 PS1 to PS2 upgrade. I've also resoldered MTH steamer tethers.
1) Is the space needed for a PS3 the same as a PS2 for a diesel?
2) If trying to put PS3 in say... a Lionel Polar Express or Hogwarts express, the challenge would be mounting the Tach. The boards to in the tender. Right?
3) That said. has anyone done those locos, that's willing to quote an uprade?
4) If I have a 2005 RTR Christmas steamer, I'm giving to a niece this Christmas (30-4141-1), is that a 5V setup? If so, would it be cheaper to buy the upgrade kit, or to pay a ech that can get just the board? I am in NJ and can probably get the train as far away as Hennings.
Thanks
Marty ( A random Marty, clearly not the Marty)
Marty, the Polar Express could be possible, but the Hogwarts has a vertical motor and an oddball flywheel. That one would take some work to make it happen. I did a Hogwarts in TMCC when the Cruise Lite was available, nowadays I'm not sure what I'd do. The Hogwart's also has the small set motor, so a newer Polar Express is a better bet with the large motor.
The PS-3 Upgrade kit for steam uses the PS-32 board which is wider and slightly taller then the PS-2 3V. So it has become harder to do installs in small steam with small tenders. G
no that engine is a ps 2 3 volt board! and as far as the kits concerned is you can purchase it from mth for $169.00 plus shipping if you join there premier or railking club there is a feed then you get kit for the above price, otherwise it cost you 199.00 plus $18.00 shipping!
p.s I have ps2 3volt board if you would want me to replace it and not have to buy the kit! the board would still be ps 2 3 volt and much cheaper then buying the kit especially if your paying someone to upgrade it for you! I'm in new jersey too!
Yes the board would be cheaper!
Alan
I have a general question about the Proto-Sound 3.0 Upgrade Kits mentioned here: https://www.mthtrains.com/news/571. These are specifically items 50-1911 and 50-1912.
1. Do these kits use the so called "PS32" board?
2. Is it right to say they are designed for Proto-Sound 2.0 3v sound files? If yes, why on page 33 of the upgrade manual say that the user must download a Proto-Sound 3.0 Upgrade Sound file?
3. Are the upgrades mostly geared towards owners of older original Proto-Sound locos (PS1)? Or are they more for people that want to install a command system in a conventional locomotive, like older Lionel or 3rd Rail ones? Or both?
4. If I have a Proto-Sound 2.0 (3v or 5v) locomotive and the circuit board dies beyond repair, are the "PS32" boards (sans the rest of the upgrade kit parts) what a ASC tech would install as a replacement board?
I know this is probably covered elsewhere, but after reading all eight pages of this thread and searching the forum I can't find answers to these specific questions.
Steam kits use the PS32 board and load 3V PS/2 files.
Diesel upgrade kits are standard PS/3 diesel boards and require PS/3 sound and chain files.
Upgrade kits are targeted for anyone that wants to add DCS command to a non-command locomotive, or for people that would like to move from TMCC to DCS.
Yes, the PS32 board is the board we use to replace both the 3V and 5V PS/2 boards, there are no more PS/2 boards available for repairs.
Thanks. The difference between Steam and Diesel kits is what I think I was missing. It's all much clearer now.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Steam kits use the PS32 board and load 3V PS/2 files.
Diesel upgrade kits are standard PS/3 diesel boards and require PS/3 sound and chain files.
Upgrade kits are targeted for anyone that wants to add DCS command to a non-command locomotive, or for people that would like to move from TMCC to DCS.
Yes, the PS32 board is the board we use to replace both the 3V and 5V PS/2 boards, there are no more PS/2 boards available for repairs.
As a FYI I've had no problem running PS3 steam sound files in a PS32 board, as long as the proper PS32 steam chain file is loaded. You DO NOT want to load the steam PS3 chain file associated with the PS3 steam sound file you are using, just the PS3 sound file. Leave the PS32 steam chain file alone.
Correct, most PS/3 steam sound files will work with the PS32 boards. I hesitate to mention that as there are wrinkles, depending on the specifics of the engine and the sound file. For sure you don't want to try to load the PS/3 chain files, that will fail for sure.
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