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I so love Legacy and how easy it makes it to build trains.  I just couldn't resist, so here is all my Legacy locomotives pulling a mixed train.

I know some guys will have a cow over this, but to me they are toys, and I love playing with my toys.  But know there is hope, my son took issue with the different roads of each locomotive.  "I real life they would of never run together, would they Dad?  So why are you doing it now?"  Good thing it's my railroad, not his.

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I know some guys will have a cow over this, but to me they are toys, and I love playing with my toys.  But know there is hope, my son took issue with the different roads of each locomotive.  "I real life they would of never run together, would they Dad?  So why are you doing it now?"  Good thing it's my railroad, not his.

Sinclair;

Great videos. I love how slowly you can get Legacy engines to crawl. As someone who has no problem with my VL Big Boy pulling modern intermodal cars, I am not having any cows. As for you son, I would merely tell him - My road, My rules!!!

Several years ago, when I occasionally ran a two-locomotive steam train on one of my loops, for a brief stint, I was advised (it may have been by Fred Dole, if I recall correctly,) that having engines with significantly different driver-wheel diameters put a strain on the mechanisms and/or the wear on the wheels themselves, that the drivers on the two steam locomotives tried constantly to re-adjust to each other's wheel rotations down the tracks. I had paired a Lionel PRR #4668 [2-10-0] with a Lionel PRR#5400 [4-6-2] locomotive. That advice put a damper my pairing such different driver wheel arrangements between/among (I had, also, intended adding a Lionel PRR#1111 [2-8-0] and/or a LionelPRR #738 [2-8-2] to the locomotives already together). That was the last time I paired-up steam locomotives of such differing wheel arrangements.

My conclusion was that toys and models are one thing, yes. And fun is fun. And playing it my way was good. However, taking a chance at abusing $1,000 engines was not part of any playtime I had envisioned for myself.

Just a thought.

FrankM.

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laz1957 posted:

Yes real nice video!!!  Enjoy!!!  I usually run a lashup, err MU with my ES44ACs.  Love it very easy to do. 

I am wondering if I can do a MU with two up front and have a pusher or two in the rear of the consist?  Did anyone ever try this?????

I have run that way, before I got the Ten Wheeler, I had a train with the BB and Mikado up front and the B6 pushing on the rear.  I didn't do something like that because the last car doesn't have a rear coupler installed.  Tonight I might put the Ten Wheeler and B6 in the middle for fun.

Moonson posted:

Several years ago, when I occasionally ran a two-locomotive steam train on one of my loops, for a brief stint, I was advised (it may have been by Fred Dole, if I recall correctly,) that having engines with significantly different driver-wheel diameters put a strain on the mechanisms and/or the wear on the wheels themselves, that the drivers on the two steam locomotives tried constantly to re-adjust to each other's wheel rotations down the tracks. I had paired a Lionel PRR #4668 [2-10-0] with a Lionel PRR#5400 [4-6-2] locomotive. That advice put a damper my pairing such different driver wheel arrangements between/among (I had, also, intended adding a Lionel PRR#1111 [2-8-0] and/or a LionelPRR #738 [2-8-2] to the locomotives already together). That was the last time I paired-up steam locomotives of such differing wheel arrangements.

My conclusion was that toys and models are one thing, yes. And fun is fun. And playing it my way was good. However, taking a chance at abusing $1,000 engines was not part of any playtime I had envisioned for myself.

Just a thought.

FrankM.

Sorry, but as a mechanical engineer, that's got to be the silliest thing I've heard.  The only way that could be an issue is if they run at different speed when given the same voltage, like running in conventional.  If they track each other just fine in command when set to the same speed step, there is no strain.  And if that would really be an issue, the 1:1 railroads wouldn't do it, but they did all the time.  Besides, all but the B6 are back drivable (AFAIK, I haven't tried it on the B6 yet.), so the transmission will take up any difference in speed.  If your two PRR's are Legacy, you should be fine.  Load them int eh remote using the orange module and then build a train knowing that they'll run happy together.

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sinclair posted:
laz1957 posted:

Yes real nice video!!!  Enjoy!!!  I usually run a lashup, err MU with my ES44ACs.  Love it very easy to do. 

I am wondering if I can do a MU with two up front and have a pusher or two in the rear of the consist?  Did anyone ever try this?????

I have run that way, before I got the Ten Wheeler, I had a train with the BB and Mikado up front and the B6 pushing on the rear.  I didn't do something like that because the last car doesn't have a rear coupler installed.  Tonight I might put the Ten Wheeler and B6 in the middle for fun.

Moonson posted:

Several years ago, when I occasionally ran a two-locomotive steam train on one of my loops, for a brief stint, I was advised (it may have been by Fred Dole, if I recall correctly,) that having engines with significantly different driver-wheel diameters put a strain on the mechanisms and/or the wear on the wheels themselves, that the drivers on the two steam locomotives tried constantly to re-adjust to each other's wheel rotations down the tracks. I had paired a Lionel PRR #4668 [2-10-0] with a Lionel PRR#5400 [4-6-2] locomotive. That advice put a damper my pairing such different driver wheel arrangements between/among (I had, also, intended adding a Lionel PRR#1111 [2-8-0] and/or a LionelPRR #738 [2-8-2] to the locomotives already together). That was the last time I paired-up steam locomotives of such differing wheel arrangements.

My conclusion was that toys and models are one thing, yes. And fun is fun. And playing it my way was good. However, taking a chance at abusing $1,000 engines was not part of any playtime I had envisioned for myself.

Just a thought.

FrankM.

Sorry, but as a mechanical engineer, that's got to be the silliest thing I've heard.  The only way that could be an issue is if they run at different speed when given the same voltage, like running in conventional. ...

Yes, they were run as conventional locomotives. However, I am glad to learn from a voice with your professional experience what the facts are. Thanks.

FrankM.

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