Question for Anyone Who Owns a VISION LINE LEGACY Hudson

Fred, It did not come with a chain but they can be added.

 

Vision Hudson on right as delivered:

 

 

Chain and support bar added:

 

 

Pete

 

 

Pete,

Where would I find something like this??

Fred

 

It did not . To this day I am not happy about the chain and the builder plate . I know they where going with making it look like the 30s one. The shiney black sucks to. But it is a nice piece and I love mine . I would love to fix those issues but I gonna leave it alone .

Fred, The chain is pretty common. Your local hobby shop should have some. The one I used has a more links/foot than would have been correct for this engine. Precision Scale offers chain in different sizes. You can now download their catalog from their website.

I can usually find their product at Caboose Hobbies in Denver.

The support bar is just a piece of copper wire I had.

 

Prototype:

 

Pete

 

 

Precision Scale makes builders plates as well. When the warranty runs out I'll remove the cast on bulges.

 

I wish a had the  brass to spray flat on mine.  

Nice job on the coupler lift bar and chain. You also may want to paint the engine truck wheels with Scalecoat Loco Black, and then also paint over the white/shiny drive wheel tires.

Thanks Hot. I have more details planned like lagging clamps but will wait for the 3 year warranty to expire. Rumor has it that some mods may void the warranty. Who knows maybe I already have?

 

Pete

Somehow I can NOT believe that "painting " certain components, like wheels, would void the warranty. Now taking the boiler off or disassembling the tender might "void the warranty".

Hi Pete (Norton)

 

Which Hudson is in the left of your photo above?

I too have the Vision Line Hudson.

i also can't stand the white walls on my daylight .I so want to repaint them black. 

Robert, the other Hudson is the K-Line. I had lined them up to verify they are same size (within a few scale inches in most dimensions) and also determine what details I had to get for the Lionel model. This pic was taken long before acquiring that fine Williams engine.

 

Pete

 

 

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Any other idea's?

Yeah, rob the wife's jewelry box.

Fred, Do you have any craft stores near you? Michaels, AC Moore, Hobby Lobby, etc. They all sell this.

 

Pete

PETE,

 

YES I do!!  Never thought of that!! Thanks so much!

 

Fred

Pete,

You should post some pics of the K-Line, Wms Masterpiece and Lionel VL alongside each other for a comparison.

 

Robert

I don't know Robert. Might start another war.  Maybe I can sneak them in somewhere.

 

Pete

"Rim" painting:

 

Well, just to skew this topic a bit, when I paint driver tires (not "rims") I use a good-quality acrylic like Model-Master, typically flat and black, and a small brush. And 30 minutes patience. Turning the drivers can be as easy as moving the flywheel  if

you can reach it, or just putting the loco on the track and moving it a bit to expose

some more tire.

 

Flat, dark gray acrylics can be located to better blend with less-black drivers,

or you can paint the entire driver (and the rods, and the...)

 

The acrylic seems to stick to the smooth steel better than enamels, and does not

leave brush marks.

 

 

 

Come on Pete - this is a GREAT idea!

 

We haven't had a 'Hudson comparison thread' for awhile now..

You would be comparing two J1e's and a J3a though, apples to oranges sort of thing. Comparing the Lionel Hudson to the K-Line Hudson has also been beaten to death in the past, resulting in way too many bruised egos.....

 

As for driver rim painting, I did that to the shiny plated rims on my 3rd Rail Super J3a. Set the locomotive on speed step 1 and held a brush with Pollyscale engine black against each rim. No brush marks whatsoever and perfect consistency.

 

Nick, PLEASE. The correct term is "driver tire/tires", as all real steam locomotive have hardened steel tires that are expanded with a ring of gas/oil flames, and then "shrunk" onto the driver wheel center.

 

You are REALLY getting into this steam locomotive modeling thing, now is the time to begin learning many of the technical terms, plus what some of the appliances on the locomotive do, assuming you are interested in such stuff.

You'll have to pardon me on that one, and yes I already know the correct terms are steel tires that go on locomotive drivers. Our other hobby / business is restoration and resale of classic Corvettes, where rims are steel and tires are rubber. After a while much of that terminology is easily blurred and inadvertently applied to model trains 

HEY GUYS....................Get your OWN POST !!!!

 

Mine is about the Coupler Lift Chain in front of the Vision Line HUDSON...LOL

 

Fredstrains

Honestly, I find it kinda ironic how the Vision 700E was all packed with more modern details compared to the American made Lionel Hudsons. However, ALL of the Lionel scale Hudsons made in America as well as many of the currently produced scale steamers had the front coupler lift bar and chain, but the Vision 700E didn't....

Doesn't figure, does it!!

 

FREDSTRAINS

The reason for not including the chain on the VL Hudson is so that the supplied NON-scale knuckle coupler can be easily changed out if so desired.  

 

If you recall, the 1990 version ONLY came with a SCALE front coupler, hence the inclusion of the chain.

ART,

 

By GOLLY, I think you got it!!

 

FREDSTRAINS

That I recall, but the new Lionel steamers like the Mallet, Crescent, Blue Comet, and EM-1 DO have the chain and pin and they can be changed out with a non-scale coupler....

 

I guess Lionel didn't want to make a new type for the Vision Hudson.