Questions on 2017 Lionel NYC S2 electric

I have the older one. The third rail shoes can be removed to navigate switches if you have less-than-perfect track.

We discussed it here. Ignore the quality control stuff.

The third rail shoes do not require removal, even with imperfect track, at least not in my case. I have GG switches (mostly) with old RIX switch machines, however. 

Turn the loco over and see it any of the shoes are misshapen/protruding - I've seen this - and it can be corrected with a gentle reshaping back to normal. This may be contributing to the issue. If the interference is very slight, a little file work on the shoe - or the switch machine box - may do it.

The bell is tricky. One holding it, you'll hear what sounds like a pause in the ringing. Right THEN is when you want to release it. Takes some practice. Took me a while of playing with it until I could figure out how it works.

Jeff2035 posted:

Just put my new loco on the track and have two issues:

1. when using Cab 2 Legacy controller, whether I briefly use the whistle controller or press it up for 1.5 seconds (or longer) it only rings 4/5 times and then stops. I am not able to get it to ring constantly, as I can with my PRR SS2 steam loco with swinging bell. Any solutions?

2. the protruding parts from the pilot and trailing trucks (I assume are 3d rail pick ups?) sometimes catch on switch machines that came mounted to my Ross switches. Any solutions? 

 

 

Make new spring using .025 music wire. If using Z1000 mount unit on side of switch so you can insert 2nd screw in mounting hole. You can also counter sink  hole closest to track and use #4 flat head screw. 

I have the same problem with the bell.  For the life of me I can not get it to keep ringing.  All other Legacy locomotives do it no problem.  Why is this one so picky about timing?

Thanks to all for great responses.

I did not realize the shoes were removable. Neat. If it comes to that, it is nice I have that option.

I will also remove the screws closest to the track, on the switch machines.

Only problem, I still can't get the bell to continue ringing. I'll try again tomorrow.

You need to hold the bell down and hold it a bit longer then it will stay running.

Hi Marty,

I tried that and it does not keep the bell on.

I have the CC2 and it works perfect. I can even get the bell to swing only once...or non-stop.

All my other Legacy locos with bell sound are equally responsive.

The new S2 will ring 5 times and stop. Next time it rings 4 times and stops. It cycles between 5 and 4 no matter what I do with the Cab 2 controller.

I have the same issue with the keeping the bell swinging. Any other tips?

I emailed Lionel "Talk to us" and Angela  said "we need to bring in the engine" and she asked me for info so she could set up the RA.

I did ask her if my local Legacy repair person could do the repair (I gave her his name and location) and she said I could take it to him, which I will do tomorrow.

Interesting, when I run it in "sequence control" mode the bell will ring continuously as it gradually speeds up to about step 22. When it is slowed down it will begin ringing again at step 22, which is how it is supposed to work. However, I still cannot get it to ring continuously when I try to do it manually.

Once it is repaired, I will post again to this chain.

That's the way mine is.  Sigh, so I need to send it back to Lionel.

I recently bought one of these NYC S2 electric locos (6-84508) and I am seeing the same bell behavior described in this thread, no ability to turn on continuous ringing manually.  I was wondering if anyone had their engine serviced as suggested by Angela at Lionel and saw it corrected?  I did get it to work manually one time, but could never repeat it.  I'm not too bothered by it as I like the automatic sequence control mode.  Just wondering if it is a fixable problem.

Thanks in advance.

 My local Legacy repair person got the part he needed from Lionel. It is fixable. I apologize for not posting the fix as I said I would do in 2018.

My experience is one you hold the bell on for a second or two, you’ll hear a very brief lull or something that sounds like it “skips” a ring....hold the button on until you hear that and then release. I’ve never had an issue doing that and my engine runs, and has since day 1, perfectly.

Thanks guys!  I appreciate the info.  Happy railroading!

Yes, I sent mine to Lionel and it came back working correctly.

@Jeff2035 posted:

 My local Legacy repair person got the part he needed from Lionel. It is fixable. I apologize for not posting the fix as I said I would do in 2018.

Just out of curiosity what was needed to be done?  RCMC?

Zachariah,

Finally found the detail sheet on the repair:

"Returned bell coil drive board p/n 691CDV2A02 to Lionel Customer Service to be re-flashed. Re-flashed board allows the bell to ring continuously as long as bell button is depressed on the Legacy controller. It will actually continue as long as the button is held for four rings. "

That’s good to know thank you