Questions on Lionel's standard gauge freight cars?

There are 10 series cars with silver or grey looking trucks. The 100 series cars are much smaller and have black trucks.

The Lionel thing dates the car forget the time frames.

Look for yellow primer and wonder why they are selling for thousands of dollars.

1) The "MFG" embossing on the bottom of 100 series freight cars is from an earlier period than the  "Corporation" rubber-stamping.

2) The 100 series had two types of trucks: the later, black, more open style; and an earlier nickel with embossed springs style, which resembles the 10 series truck but is smaller.

I'm away from my library right now but someone with a Greenberg handy could give you the dates.  But a 100 series freight car with MFG and the nickel trucks is an older version.

people selling on eBay often don't know what they have and will often list 10 series as 100's and vice versa.  You have to know what you're looking at.

david

Thank you for the answers, I was only purchasing the non-embossed 100 series cars with the open black truck frame, now I know if I see the embossed car with the sliver type trucks (shorter with embossed springs) that they are OK to purchase. If some one could give me the time line on the 100 series freight cars with the embossed type name on the bottom and with the two type of trucks I would really appreciate it.

By way of example, this is the later 117 caboose with the black trucks you are familiar with;

This one is the earlier 117 with nickel trucks;

And this one is being sold as a 117, but is actually the bigger #17 caboose, with the larger 10 series nickel trucks.

RonH posted:

Thank you for the answers, I was only purchasing the non-embossed 100 series cars with the open black truck frame, now I know if I see the embossed car with the sliver type trucks (shorter with embossed springs) that they are OK to purchase. If some one could give me the time line on the 100 series freight cars with the embossed type name on the bottom and with the two type of trucks I would really appreciate it.

There are three variations, two of which were used on 100 freight cars, of the embossed frame trucks. Production period for these trucks was 1910-1912. There were three types of non-embossed trucks, the first was nickle plated (1912-1914). The other two were finished in black and were produced from 1915-1926.

Ron M

This is how valuable this forum is. Questions that some of us have never thought of, being answered from the breadth and depth of knowledge of its members. Great stuff, as I'm just getting my toes wet in Standard gauge.

Just as a minor heads-up, I recently noticed some 'vintage' SG items on the Bay with sprung, modern G gauge archbar trucks underneath. 

Wow, got to love this forum, every time that I need help I get it. Thank you all for your response on this subject.
Another question: Are combination type couple'rs mad for the 35 and 36 passenger cars and for the series 100 freight cars? Or just for the Loco's?
As I stated I m new to the standard gauge thing and only have one engine, 3 passenger and 7 freight cars. Passenger cars and sthye freight need some TLC. Some of the peices were repaints so stripping/repaint is needed. Already ordered rubber stamps for the passenger cars and for some of the freight

RonH posted:

Another question: Are combination type couple'rs mad for the 35 and 36 passenger cars and for the series 100 freight cars? Or just for the Loco's?

The 35-36 passenger cars started out with the older hook-and-slot couplers, but then the last versions of them had latch-type couplers, and I have seen them with the combination latch coupler with the slot.

I want  to say that the 100 series freight only had the hook couplers until they were discontinued when the 500 series came out.  I don't think I have ever seen 100's with latch couplers.  But again, someone with a Greenberg handy could confirm that easily.

hojack posted:

RonH posted:

Another question: Are combination type couple'rs mad for the 35 and 36 passenger cars and for the series 100 freight cars? Or just for the Loco's?

The 35-36 passenger cars started out with the older hook-and-slot couplers, but then the last versions of them had latch-type couplers, and I have seen them with the combination latch coupler with the slot.

I want  to say that the 100 series freight only had the hook couplers until they were discontinued when the 500 series came out.  I don't think I have ever seen 100's with latch couplers.  But again, someone with a Greenberg handy could confirm that easily.

According to the latest Greenberg's Lionel Standard Gauge book: to date No 100-series of freight cars have been found with 'combo' couplers. 

Ron M