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Well personally I do not solder every joint and I haven't encountered any operational problems.  I have found that with expansion and contraction, not only with the rail but also with the bench work itself you can get joints that will open up on you and as such crack your solder joint.  Some folks solder on a small jumper from rail to rail, some solder a feeder to each section of rail.  How are you planning on powering/operating your layout?  Straight DC..DCC...?

Reply By N&W Class J: Rail JoinersI have two tables with a long run between them, with a future Helix to take it outside to our store garden area for our customers to see. I got the plan off of here from one of the other members. here is a revised drawing of it. both tables are 6’X 6’

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That looks nice.  I wouldn't solder every joint, I would just break it into blocks and drop a single set of feeders from each block or you can drop feeders from each section of track.  Another thing to consider is that if you want to change things later or expand the layout ect...things not being soldered will make that much easier.  Isolate your yard tracks that you have there and then there are the reversing loops...old school DC would just come down to DPDT switches now a days there are Frog Juicers that automatically detect and reverse the polarity for you.

Me neither, but the necessary reverse loop is a very big reason the 3-rail scale folks keep the center rail.  If I had room for a reverse loop, I think I would do a "dog bone" layout.  Without a reverse loop feature.

 

True command control will make reverse loop wiring problems go away.  In the meantime, all you need to do is make the loop part of the revese loop a separate block, with its own reversing switch.

Originally Posted by mike g.:
Reply By N&W Class J: Rail JoinersCan you tell me more about Frog Juicers? Never heard of them. Also not sure on how to wire a reverse loop. But trying to study it. Thanks for all your information!
Mike

Azatrax has components to make that easier to do in a 2-rail context. Even though there are electronic polarity switchers, if you're using DC, conventional AC, or DCS with Proto-2 engines, mechanical (relay) polarity switching is the only way to go.

 

http://www.azatrax.com

 

Thanks Matt, I never knew there were mechanical relays for reverse loops.

 

I run DCC and what I use for my turntable is the PSX-AR from DCC Specialties. Here is a link to the manual:

 

http://dccspecialties.com/products/pdf/man_psxar.pdf

 

It was easy to hook up and works great for me. They say there's no sparking but I do see a small spark once in a while but the locomotive doesn't slow down or anything like that.

Originally Posted by N&W Class J:

The frog juicer is meant to be used with DCC only, you can read about it here.

 

Matt thank you for that link, I didn't know those existed either.  I agree it seems like the way to go. 

 

Well there ya go Mike I hope all this helps..and you can take what Matt said to the bank.

They have some interesting stuff. More importantly, they illustrate how to use their products in various applications. I stumbled across them about a year ago while I was looking for alternatives to insulated rail for signal triggering at the club, plus I was looking for something that would be compatible with 2-rail operation on a hybrid layout.

Frog juicers are awesome.  Use  them on the portable layout.  Just don't forget about them while you're running DCS and Proto 2 locos.  Had an issue several years back and fried the DCS board in the locomotive.   A case when smoke coming from the locomotive stack and through the cab windows wasn't desired.
 
 
Originally Posted by N&W Class J:

That looks nice.  I wouldn't solder every joint, I would just break it into blocks and drop a single set of feeders from each block or you can drop feeders from each section of track.  Another thing to consider is that if you want to change things later or expand the layout ect...things not being soldered will make that much easier.  Isolate your yard tracks that you have there and then there are the reversing loops...old school DC would just come down to DPDT switches now a days there are Frog Juicers that automatically detect and reverse the polarity for you.

 

Reply By N&W Class J: Rail JoinersI just read about Frog Juicers! Wow you guys are great and full of wonderful information. The link you gave me was great and the prices are not to bad at all. I really want to thank all of you for the input and wonderful information! I will try and get some pictures of my layout as it progresses.

Mike
Originally Posted by AGHRMatt:
They have some interesting stuff. More importantly, they illustrate how to use their products in various applications. I stumbled across them about a year ago while I was looking for alternatives to insulated rail for signal triggering at the club, plus I was looking for something that would be compatible with 2-rail operation on a hybrid layout.

They certainly do.  I also noticed that they show you what to use where and how ect...I was impressed.  I'm glad you came across these folks, I think I may be placing an order for a few items.  Thanks again Matt.

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Originally Posted by Mike DeBerg:
Frog juicers are awesome.  Use  them on the portable layout.  Just don't forget about them while you're running DCS and Proto 2 locos.  Had an issue several years back and fried the DCS board in the locomotive.   A case when smoke coming from the locomotive stack and through the cab windows wasn't desired.

 

Ooooooo that really hurts...

 

 

Originally Posted by mike g.:
Reply By N&W Class J: Rail JoinersI just read about Frog Juicers! Wow you guys are great and full of wonderful information. The link you gave me was great and the prices are not to bad at all. I really want to thank all of you for the input and wonderful information! I will try and get some pictures of my layout as it progresses.

Mike

I'm glad we all could help you, and please keep us posted on your progress...

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