RE: Steamlined Engines

Dan G posted:

Which engine type (Atlantic, Pacific,  4-6-4, or 4-8-4) were most frequently converted to Streamlining?

1) Which railroad?

2) How much "streamlining"?

All Roads.

Both Streamlined and semi-streamlined

Thanks

Dan G posted:

All Roads.

 

Both Streamlined and semi-streamlined

Then I would suppose that the largest group/groups would be on the Southern Pacific, as they had "semi-streamlined", 4-8-4s, 4-8-2s, 4-6-2s, and even the AC-9 class 2-8-8-4s.

 

Thanks

 

Second would probably be the N&W with their J's and K's.

Rusty

More a question than a statement - what about the New York Central and their Hudsons?

Byrdie posted:

More a question than a statement - what about the New York Central and their Hudsons?

You might want to check the New York Central Historical Society for exact quantities, but I don't think that the NYC really had all that many streamlined Hudsons.

Just scratching the surface here...

Canadian Pacific had Jubilees, Hudson, and Selkirks (81 in total)  - Might be at the top of the list.

Milwaukee Road had Atlantics, Pacifics, Hudsons, and ten-Wheelers in various "Hiawatha" streamlined schemes.  

NYC 13 Hudsons one Pacific, and one Mohawk (Rexall).

Pennsy had an assortment of duplexes and Pacifics.

As far as which type of engine was most often streamlined, I guess it would be one of the 'mid-sized' passenger engines, either Pacifics or Hudsons...although of course SP and N&W had streamlined 4-8-4s. Remember it was kind of a narrow window, starting in 1934 and ending around 1941. After that, streamlined diesels were bought instead of new or remodeled steam. (Yes the last N&W "J" was built in 1950, but it was based on a c.1941 design).

Let's not forget these little guys :

Rusty

I re-read the question.  My guess would be Hudsons at at least 85.  This is probably incomplete.

Canadian Pacific Royal Hudsons - 40

NYC (10) 20th Century Dryfuss, (2) Empire State Express, (1) Commodore Vanderbilt, - 13

Milwaukee Road F7 - 6

New Haven - 10

CB&Q - 2

Santa Fe - 1

Chicago & North Western E-4 - 9

C&O - 4

The PRR had 5 streamlined K4s...1 Loewy and 4 Altoona Shops. Also the 3 T-1s and the S-1 Duplex.

To my knowledge there were 52 T1's the PRR built, 2 prototypes and 50 production models.

Joe Hohmann posted:

The PRR had 5 streamlined K4s...1 Loewy and 4 Altoona Shops. Also the 3 T-1s and the S-1 Duplex.

What do you mean by 3 T1's? The whole fleet of 50 T1's was streamlined. Only two ( demonstrators #6110 & #6111) had the most skirting  than the rest of the class.

And you did forget the experimental Q1 heavy freight locomotive that originally was streamlined.

What if from the December 84 Trains magazine...

Rusty

Rusty Traque posted:

Second would probably be the N&W with their J's (14) and K's (22).

Rusty

Quantities added as an FYI.

Gilly@N&W posted:

Rusty Traque posted:

Second would probably be the N&W with their J's (14) and K's (22).

Rusty

Quantities added as an FYI.

Where all 22 of the N&W K Class mountains streamlined?

Hot Water posted:

Gilly@N&W posted:

Rusty Traque posted:

Second would probably be the N&W with their J's (14) and K's (22).

Rusty

Quantities added as an FYI.

Where all 22 of the N&W K Class mountains streamlined?

Sixteen Class K1 locos #100 - #115 were not streamlined.
Twenty Two Class K2/K2a locos #116 - #137 were streamlined.
Ten Class K3 locos #200 - #209 were not streamlined.
Total = 48 Mountain type 4-8-2 locos.