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Afternoon everyone, Happy early Thanksgiving. Just a quick and I "think" simple question for the forum for here goes.

I'm in the process of building a layout for my son and me roughly 4x10, postwar styled btw with all postwar lionel trains and accessories.

The question is I'd like to use the 450 signal bridge, 153 block signal and a few other signals lionel had during the postwar era. Wondering what relay can I use to operate these with? I'd like to avoid using the common track trip, pressure plate design these accessories came with.

Hopefully I worded this question correctly, also if someone could link me the product and possibly a wiring schematic that would also be extremely helpful, pictures also go a long way with me. Even if anyone knows of a youtube video tutorial that would be great also, thanks



Johnathan.

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Ditto to Steve H.  I use Azatrax MRAPR 12V DPDT relays to control four 153 block signals on my 027 layout.   Their website has good wiring diagrams.  You're going to need a few pieces of track with insulated outside rails, and a pile of insulating track pins.   

It took a little fine tuning (and a couple of train wrecks) to get the "coasting" distance figured out so the trains don't roll through the red light.   It was a lot of fun getting everything to work. 

This may not be exactly what you are looking for but it might be.  This is for the train detection light (red=train in zone; green= no train in zone).  The rail between the two X's is an insulated rail.  Sorry about the mess with the lines in the bottom diagram: as noted, in the top diagram I have two wires that need reversed - that's what the bottom diagram is trying to show.

My diagram

Here's a diagram that was posted on the OGR forum quite a while back by ????.    There's a big difference is how things are powered.  I prefer to power the relay with a small DC trannie as I showed.

OGR diagram

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