I'M BUILDING A LAYOUT WITH A TROLLEY LINE IN THE STREETS. THE TROLLEY IS A MTH BRILL SEMI-CONVERTIBLE WITH 3V-PS2. OWNERS MANUAL SAYS IT WILL RUN ON 0-31. I WAS TOLD THAT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO RUN THIS ON 21" DIA EZ STREETS. GOT THE EZ STREETS TRACK AND THE TROLLEY'S DRIVE WHEELS CLIMB OUT OF THE TRACK GOING AROUND CURVES. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO THE TROLLEY SO IT WILL RUN ON EZSTREETS? DOES ANYONE SELL TROLLEY TRACK FOR INSTREET INSTALL. THANKS, CHARLIE
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Do you have the CURVE adapters installed? I needed them on all my curves
I run a Williams Peter Witt trolley on EZ streets with no problem, but like Larry said, you absolutely need the transition pieces between the straights and curved sections to "smooth the groove"!
You will need the 2.5 inch curve to straight adapter pieces, also you will need 2.5 inch curve to curve piece for use between two curves if you want a smaller circle. Also the curve to curve piece will open the curve size if that is the issue by placing one between each curve track.
The curve sections in either Super Streets or E Z Streets have a wider space for the wheels so they can turn easier.
Lee Fritz
Other useful information about E Z Streets & Superstreets; the 10 inch straight can be used to supply power to the tracks, just cut a small notch on the side next to the pins. Lionel Fastrack power leads work with Superstreets and I would guess they work with E Z Streets as well.
Also both E Z Streets and Superstreets can be used together without any adapter piece.
Buy some extra track pins for the E Z Streets track if you have a large set-up.
To install screws pop the manhole cover off with the end of a paper clip, straighten the paper clip first. A # 4 phillips head flat-top screw about three fourths of an inch long works very well. Do not use a rounded head screw or the manhole covers won't go back and stay in place.
FYI, Bachmann website has no instructions on how to use E Z Streets! They just sell it.
Lee Fritz
I have 2 MTH Brills running on EZ Streets 21" curves
Attached is a .pdf of the Trolley pages from my 'Streets book. For some reason the .pdf software moved one of the photos lower on the page, but the info is there. You can buy the full book, which has a bit more about trolleys elsewhere in it, from Amazon, or download a version with lower resolution pictures for free from my website, but this probably addresses what you want.
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"I'M BUILDING A LAYOUT WITH A TROLLEY LINE IN THE STREETS. THE TROLLEY IS A MTH BRILL SEMI-CONVERTIBLE WITH 3V-PS2. OWNERS MANUAL SAYS IT WILL RUN ON 0-31. I WAS TOLD THAT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO RUN THIS ON 21" DIA EZ STREETS. GOT THE EZ STREETS TRACK AND THE TROLLEY'S DRIVE WHEELS CLIMB OUT OF THE TRACK GOING AROUND CURVES. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO THE TROLLEY SO IT WILL RUN ON EZSTREETS? DOES ANYONE SELL TROLLEY TRACK FOR INSTREET INSTALL. THANKS, CHARLIE"
As said in the .pdf I posted above, when a a four-axle, two-truck trolley will not run through a 'Streets curve, the reason is nearly always that its trucks are being prevented from swiveling enough. Generally, the trolley (small diesels are the same) is made to do this with a pin that projects up from the top of the truck into a hole/slot in the floor of the trolley - it can move back and forth only inside that slot and this limits the truck from turned more sharply. If you disassemble the trolley and either widen the slot of cut the pin off, then re-assemble it, it will probably make it through D-21. I don;t list the MTH Brill in my book's table, and while I had one long ago I don't remember the details. Given you have this one though, I'd recommend studying it and seeing if you can't fix it in this way. Also make sure you are trying to run it on D-21 and not the D-16. Most every trolley I have seen will run on D-21, at least if modified, but D-16 is a bit of a challenge for some, even the the pins removed entirely.
Lee,
I ordered your book; great job!
I'll have it well broken in by the time I start the new layout.
Lee,
Thanks for posting all the information on EZ Streets. Thanks to you, I now have a trolley loop running on my cityscape section. I am running a 2 truck Brill ( MTH) and a PCC (MTH). The Brill runs without any modifications. The PCC car required lengthening a power lead inside the car by 1 in. to allow full swiveling of the truck through the curves. I will post some pictures later.
Chris
LVHR
Fantastic. I'm glad it worked. A good trolley really makes a layout and cityscape come alive.
Hope you can post those pictures.
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Anyone ever try and lower the MTH PCC??? I like mine.....but that Farm Tractor look!!!
I looked at it and it looked difficult. It needs to be lowered over a quarter inch, I think.
Ultimately, I bought a Corgi 1:50 model, shortened it a bit, and powered it with two chassis taken from WBB sedans - two motors and four-wheel drive. It does pretty well, and has b both smaller wheels than the MTH, and a lower body, so it looks better.
I just bought the new E Z Streets set the other day from an online vendor, got a great deal on it, waiting for it's delivery this week hopefully by Wednesday. I will let everybody know what all comes with the E Z Streets set; the one with the Turnpike building.
Lee Fritz
I run the MTH SEPTA trolley(non PS-2, just direction control) on D-16 curves in Super Streets. Also able to run handcars without trailers on D-16 curves.
None of my diesel engines run on D-16 curves.
I will be going up to D-21 curves in a few days, so I will see what can run.
Lee Fritz
And here’s another short video with a more scenic view taken from the front of the layout. This video also shows the programmed stops as it is running in “auto mode”, although only 2 stops are programmed on this layout.
BTW, the train on the outside loop is an American Flyer Wide Gauge (Standard Gauge to us Lionel types) passenger set for which OGR Forumites recently helped me by giving me instructions to remove the roof to replace the light bulb in one car.
Bill
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How did you program them to stop in a specific spot?
Thank You
Ken M
How did you program them to stop in a specific spot?
Thank You
Ken M
I used the instructions in the manual and used the "loop" option. Its important to stop at exactly the same spot when programming the first and last stops.
HTH,
Bill