Santa Fe 5011 class 2-10-4

@loco2124 posted:

Anyone have detail images of where the whistle and bell cords were routed on these engines?

Have you tried the Santa Fe Railway Historical and Modeling Society?

Best I have found was for the earlier class.  Also were there any 5011 class engines wearing white tires post builders photos?

Don't think so, but again,,,,,,,,try the Santa Fe Railway Historical and Modeling Society.

Thanks.

Been through a lot of my ATSF steam photos/information re the 5011 Class engines.   Cannot find any indication of a manual bell pull.

Most of the photos of the front end of those engines seem to show having a small piston attached to either the right or left side of the bell crank.  That indicates to me that they were actuated by air pressure, probably with some cyclical device having a simple 'on/off' valve easily accessible in the cab for the engineer.  Since the 5011 Class of 25 engines were built in 1944, this makes sense...by then the more sophisticated, modern  features that reduced a steam engineer's activities (not having to pull rhythmically on a bell rope, for instance) were being applied by the builder.   After all, that's also a rather l-o-n-g boiler to string a rope, the total slack of which would complicate manual actuation, I'd surmise.

But all of that is just MHO.  As Hot Water suggests, posing your question to the ATSF Modeling/Historical group would get you more bona fide info (even though I'm a foamer/member of that organization).  It'll just take some time.  Usually answers to such questions are posted in their quarterly publication, The Warbonnet.  And, on that quarterly publication cycle, it takes time...a year or more, for some inquiries/answers. 'Patience' is the word.

FWIW...

KD

Thanks.  I have reached out to them ...

@loco2124 posted:

Anyone have detail images of where the whistle and bell cords were routed on these engines? Best I have found was for the earlier class.  Also were there any 5011 class engines wearing white tires post builders photos?

Thanks.

If you've got any photos of the 5001 class the whistle and bell cords on the 5011 class were routed the same. For the bell there was an air ringer on the engineer's side with a cord connected to a pull on the fireman's side. The pull cord was only used if the air ringer failed. The air ringer moved the whole bell, unlike some other air ringers that just moved the clapper.

I'd recommend the Jeff Ainsworth book on the 5011 Class (Volume #5 in his ATSF series). There are some decent shots from both sides of the engine where you can make out the bell line threaded across the sand dome and through various standoffs. The whistle cord ran through a long tube alongside the engineer's side, stopping just short of the whistle.

Also, some good shots here of their time in Columbus:

http://www.godfatherrails.com/...os/pbr.asp?road=ATSF