Santa Fe Warbonnets and Cigar Bands

Did you try the search function? There have already been photos posted on the 3-Rail 027 Trains Forum, here on the 3RS Forum, and even the 2-Rail SCALE Forum. 

sure how about these?

That is not the "Cigar Band" freight styling. That is the short lived, as delivered on FT units, "Whiskers" styling.

My understanding this is 'cigar'

You are correct!

Hot Water,

Thanks for your novel idea---except I don't know which is which.

Norm

Why is use of the search function for "Santa Fe Cigar Band" such a novel idea?

Hot Water,

Didn’t you caution someone one these forums in the recent past to not believe everything they read on the internet? Maybe Norm wasn’t sure he would get to the correct answer by searching.

These are just my opinion,

Thanks,

Naveen Rajan

I did not say "search the internet". I suggested using the search function HERE ON THE OGR FOURM, as the Santa Fe "cigar band" paint styling has been discussed at length on the various OGR sub-forums.

Atlas Dash 8

Thanks,Mike!

Norm

I would think that if he wanted to do a search he would have done that and wouldn't have asked the question, I'm glad he didn't because I would like to see the pics and differences as well; without being castigated to do a search.  If you don't care to see just don't click on the thread!

-rog

Warbonnets

 Blue Bonnet

Classic Warbonnet

Yellow Bonnet

Whiskers posted above.

AMCDave posted the Cigar Band

Thanks for your posts on these beauties.  I don't have any Santa Fe diesel engines and may consider one after all of the posts on the 3rd Rail and Atlas products,especially since I can readily see the differences.

Norm

Now if we could only develop more interest in Santa Fe steam.

More interest?  Let's see, MTH, Lionel, and Sunset/3rd Rail have all produced the following:

1) 2-10-4 

2) 4-8-4

3) 2-8-4

4) 4-8-2

5) 2-8-8-2

6) 2-10-10-2

I'm not even a Santa Fe fan, so that is all I can remember quickly.

How about a SantaFe Mike!

That is a GREAT looking Mike!!!!!

I just got this PRR Mike.....now I need a AT&SF Mike!!!

AMC Dave, thanks for posting the pic of the cigar band f7 (i think).  To my eye the color I thought was"yellow" looks more like a gold color.  Is that accurate or am I seeing it wrong?

That's what I'm talkin' about!  You know how much I like that!

Not gold as in Gold leaf or deluxe gold.......but more a Grande gold, deep yellow or rich yellow.....depends on what you call it. 

thanks dave

Who ever posted about the classic/blue/yellow bonnets forgot black bonnet! Here are my black bonnets that Lionel put out in the past few years.

Black Bonnets were pure fiction only......a misunderstanding of catalog colors IIRC....

The Black Bonnets created a whole lot of fun back when they were first announced by K-Line a few years ago.  I seem to remember that Santa Fe Jim almost stroked out when they were offered.

Norm

Open a jar of French's yellow mustard and you can see what the color really looks like.

Let me point out that the cigar band,as applied to blue and yellow FT's in the 100 and 400 Classes, F7's in the 200 Class*, and F9's in the 281 Class lacks the black outline stripe around the oval that was applied to passenger units and including "bluebonnets".  It was masked with the same stencil, but the passenger units had the outside edge of the yellow covered by black.  The outline of the oval on the freight units looks wider, but it is actually the same width as the yellow and black together on the passenger engines.

* Including late model F3's ("F5's") 200L-A-B-C and 201L-A-B-C, which were in the 200 Class with the F7's.

Maybe this is the answer.  Scott Mann said that the reservations for the 2-6-2 are not looking good.  Maybe a 2-8-2 will appeal to a broader array of potential buyers, because of its more modern appearance, with the headlight on the smokebox door and its heftier-looking domes and appliances.  The 2-10-2 looks like the 1905 engine that is actually is.  That puts some people off.  This looks has more of a trademark Santa Fe appearance.

Looks do count.

I've got one of the Santa Fe mikes,  a brass one by Westside and factory painted. It is probably my favorite locomotive. I was adding TMCC to it, but now I think I'm going to RC it with sound.

Ron