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The agony of defeat.

Some things I do well.

Others . . . . . . 

 

The Forum has always bailed me out.

I am kitbashing Ameritowne buildings and they are coming along beautifully.

I've done a pretty nice paint job on them.

 

I cannot, for the life of me, do the brick mortar thing.

I have read and practiced and my results are abysmal.

 

Can someone point me to the fellow who advertises in one of the magazines who has a material that he claims you can wipe off

at any time? I'll try that.

 

I have tried acrylics both thinned and unthinned.

Spackling paste.

Mixtures of both.

Soft rags, damp rags, paper towels, scrapers and every type of material I can think of.

I've read all the articles about it and all I do is smear the off white paint all over a good paint job, ruining it.

 

Perhaps I am not letting the undercoat dry long enough?

Perhaps I am not waiting long enough for the "mortar layer" to dry?

 

Agh !

 

Scrapiron

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Undercoat must be dry or it could come off. Have used thinned Micheals,Hobby Lobby, Walmart, acrylic "squirt" paints for the motar and mixed in small washed out old plastic coleslaw, butter, etc food containers. Slop on, we use a small like shaving brush but anything would work, and don't wait too long or you have to rub too hard to remove it off the brick tops. We don't really care if it all comes off either.

Also, the rag you use to wipe off the excess cannot reach into the crevices.

For example old t-shirts work way better than insde out old white socks where the pile cleans out the mortar grooves. Shallow mortar lines make it even harder. Work gently:-)

Ditto for Robert's Brick 'n Mortar. Everyone I know who's ever bought it has not regretted that purchase. Easy to use too! In fact, an eleven year old student of my wife used it for a project in her social studies class to age a building he brought in for a Revolutionary War diorama and got great looking results.
Kenn
Originally Posted by Rich883:

I really like the Roberts Brick Mortar, it works well for me.

 

Rich

 

A diluted house latex paint works well (Thin water diluted).  Keep in mind that this was three or four applications before the paint/mortar lines were acceptable. I also did some sanding with 600 grit paper after the paint was applied/dry. First step before any assembly with the Ameritown pieces laying flat on the work bench.  Take some time and leave the paint dry between applications. Patients.





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I use Mikes method of diluted latex paint. It has always provided good results. I have used white, grey and beige colors for the mortar joints.

On DPM modular wall sections that have smaller and deeper grooves between the bricks, I will use a 2 to 1 water to paint ration and let it sit on the wall longer before I wipe it off. For Korber and Ameritown buildings, I usually use a 1 to 1 ratio.

 

Alan Graziano

Eliot,

 

As Frank and others have said - many different ways all produce great results.

 

I shot this photo for an OGR article a while back using diluted acrylic paint with no wiping needed. No fancy mixing formula - just a brushful of paint and some water on the palette. Talk about a lucky shot though - it isn't always as easy as the photo made it look!!!

 

Best results happen when you start with either a primed surface or one that has been given a spray of Testor's Dullcote. Also, as Mike said, it doesn't always happen with one application.

 

The advantage of acrylics is that you can adjust the colors for the effect you want. For example, I prefer an antique white for a warmer tone, or a light gray for some variety.

 

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Jim

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I use Robert's as well. Ameritowne fronts, which I love, have fairly shallow mortar grooves, especially compared to MTH buildings. This makes them harder to get a "neat look". Like jerrman said, with Robert's, you don't have to "beat the clock" (which, by the way, is hard except for very small areas. Even then, you have to deal with "overlap").

We'll drink beer, smoke cigars, lie about hot women and make some buildings . .. 

                          . . . . . Frank


There's a reason I won't have to lie about the hotties. 


A thousand thanks for all the great suggestions.

I am certain they will work.


My first step will be the new mortar.

Second step will be to try Dullcoat. A good idea.

i will have at it until it works.

Then, I will take all the credit.

 

Jim  .  .  . That palette almost hit me.

You must have been good with a frisbee back in the Bronx.

 

Seriously,

I am very gratified that so many master builders chipped in here. Thank you all very much. Whatever I have accomplished, it has been with your expertise.

 

Scrapiron the Grateful

 

 

 





Eliot, I feel and share your angst!

 

I have tried numerous times without success.  Too much white was left on the bricks no matter how hard I tried to not have it there.  Every time that I got rid of the white on the bricks I landed up removing some/most of the mortar lines too.

 

Even pictures that I've seen in mags and here on the forum, the bricks are "whitish".

 

The ones that Mike and Frank posted above are the very best that I have ever seen!!!!!  Ever, anywhere.  Congrats guys on a great result.

 

I've never tried Roberts Brick Mortar so maybe I will do that.

 

Good topic - for me!

 

- walt

Originally Posted by walt rapp:

Rich,

 

Please don't take offense, but your picture shows what I meant by "too whitish" bricks.  It may look less whitish in person, but the photo makes it look so.

 

Don't get mad!!!

 

- walt

I don't think so.

here is a real picture take a look the whitish.

Andre.

Originally Posted by Frank53:
 

Take a Florida vacation, bring a bunch of wall sections.

 

We'll drink beer, smoke cigars, lie about hot women and make some buildings . .. 

Wow, sounds a h*** of lot better than your average model railroad clinic, doesn't it? 

Elliot, relax.  You'll eventually get it.  Gee, at first I thought this was Jethro Tull topic.

 

George

I use all sorts of things depending on the result I want. Walthers works very well and is consistent. I also use acrylic paint for varying shades. Best to do a test spot. They look a total different color wet and dry.  

 

Some buildings I want the look very older brick and white buildup on some brick surfaces. Sometimes I want just a very thin mortar. Best thing is my feeling is when you screw up thsts fine too. Do a search on google for brick buildings, out in the real world they vary tremendously. 

I'll do brick when pressed, and the money's right. And as far as reality is concerned every building is different and every building has its flaws. You can pick any job apart. But its still standing years later. Its all in what you perceive to be good. Look closely enough and every brick job will tell its tale. So if it looks good to you, Shazzam stop doubting yourself

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