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I love an EX/LN Gilbert AF 24626 caboose, and always look for one at train shows better than the best one I was last able to find.  The main differentiator?  How perfectly intact is the silver roof.  I like the 24626 over the 24631 because the 26 was made with window inserts and because of them it is just that little bit more aesthetically appealing to me than a 31.  So, when I saw a new 6-48753 for sale separated from its Defender set and saw that while numbered 24631 it has window inserts and illumination I could not resist.  Imagine, the best of both worlds - old and new - perfect lettering, yellow paint, red highlighted cast in details, and silver roof.  Well, not so fast. Mine arrived today with everything in perfectly new and beautiful condition, except the silver roof.  It has rub marks in three out of four roof sections where the clear plastic clamshell it gets shipped in chaffed away the paint.  Arrrrrrgh.  How disappointing is that?  So, my question to you is, should there have been some paper or plastic between the roof and the clamshell container?  Did this unit get shipped to me with something missing, or are they packaged like this?  If it should have had something there then this one needs to get returned, if not, then I think Lionel really blew the chance to create a really nicely done reproduction of a classic. I may still be in search of a yellow AF caboose in really great condition with window inserts and a blemish-free silver roof.  

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  • IMG_1691: two panels with rub marks from packaging
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Unfortunately it seems Lionel and/or their suppliers are playing with reducing the packaging without evaluating (or in the case of the manufacturer, probably not caring) the impact to the end product.

 

Until recently, items in clam-shells would have either a protective bag, or more recently a sheet of plastic wrapped around the car so there was no contact from finished surface to the clam-shell.

 

I'm sure it's cheaper by a whole 1/10th of a penny to eliminate the plastic sheet.  The company line will likely be that the trains "show better" in the package without the bag (I've had a dealer tell me that for his store display, but in fairness, this becomes less of an issue once the large trip across the world has happened).

 

Sorry for your frustration.  I hope you can find another caboose someday that is in better condition.

 

Ironic that it may actually be easier to find something in good condition (though obviously you will be paying a bit for it if you do) from the original years than the current production.

 

-Dave

 

Last edited by Dave45681

Sgaugian, I had the same issue with the "Route of the Reindeer" operating Christmas Caboose I got in December.  It's roof was scuffed on at least in one spot.  As Dave says above, this problem would be totally avoided with a plastic bag or some tissue.  The Chinese don't care, & I guess Lionel doesn't either.  ALSO, my caboose box was NOT glued at the seam!!!  I understand many of the Defender Sets came with unglued inner boxes.   For the prices of these products, this is totally unacceptable.

A few observations and a suggestion...

 

After unpacking once again my Defender set, I discovered some of the same marks on the caboose silver paint that Sgaugian observed, but less severe. This is interesting because they were not present when I first unpacked the set and took the pictures I shared with you all last August.

 

My theory is that the marks are not primarily due to mechanical rubbing, but rather related to a plasticizer that may be present in the thermoformed polystyrene bubble pack which is interacting with the silver paint. Silver has always one of the more "touchy" colors. Repeated mechanical rubbing is a less likely potential cause of the marks because they are not likely to have occurred while sitting motionless in a box in my basement.

 

I removed the roof marks by gently (Gently, slowly, carefully!) rubbing them out using a moistened tissue with just a bit of ‘Softscrub’ (my generic brand is Meijer Gentle Touch Soft Cleanser) on the tissue. Finish with a soft tissue moistened with just clean water. Some of the mark was lessened by just gently rubbing with a moist tissue, so try that first. My roof now looks fine again.

 

I cut some tissue paper to suit and placed it around the roofs to protect the silver paint from the bubble pack before repacking the caboose.

 

So, Lionel needs to revisit their bubble pack practices. But apparently, if caught in time, one may be able to remove the marks.

 

Hope this helps. Let us know how it goes.

 

Bob

Bob, 

Glad yours came clean.  I tried similar measures on mine after the photos but mine has spots too deeply rubbed and/or adversely chemically effected by the packaging to fix/undo.  I repainted the roof instead.  Good tips on the protective measures to take with the packaging.  Clearly some form of isolator of the roof from the plastic container is in order.  

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