Whose interested in 1 or more SDL-39's? If there is enough interest, maybe we can get this model produced. Message me at TwoRailOscale AT yahoo DOT com if you'd like to be added to the list. Ballpark of $1500 unpainted brass.
Brad
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Whose interested in 1 or more SDL-39's? If there is enough interest, maybe we can get this model produced. Message me at TwoRailOscale AT yahoo DOT com if you'd like to be added to the list. Ballpark of $1500 unpainted brass.
Brad
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YES! YES! YES!!!
Dick
For what it's worth, there were only 10 built, all delivered to the Milwaukee Road. Also, the correct model designation is SDL39, i.e. NOT "SDL-39"!
Just curious what the cachet of these locos is?
Simon
Well, at first glance they look like regular SD (6-axle) diesels. Then you think they're not quite as long as those other SDs. Then you think that's why their trucks look a bit shorter too, which is maybe why they don't look the same as the ones on those regular SDs - more holes? Then some smartass walks up and asks if you noticed the wheels are about 2" bigger than on those other SDs. Great hobby, even the smartasses are worth listening to occasionally
Jason
@Jason Dickie posted:Well, at first glance they look like regular SD (6-axle) diesels. Then you think they're not quite as long as those other SDs.
That's because they are built on a shorter/lighter underframe.
Then you think that's why their trucks look a bit shorter too, which is maybe why they don't look the same as the ones on those regular SDs - more holes?
The trucks may LOOK shorter, but they are the same as other SD 3-axle trucks, just with hollow/lighter weight bolsters & frames.
Then some smartass walks up and asks if you noticed the wheels are about 2" bigger than on those other SDs. Great hobby, even the smartasses are worth listening to occasionally
Well, speaking as a "smartass" who worked for EMD for almost 37 years, the trucks, GP, SD, and SW of that era, ALL had 40" diameter wheels, i.e. NOT "2" bigger". The 42" diameter wheels didn't come along until the late 1990s
Jason
Well Hot Water, I'll have to go thru' all my mags now and edit the one that got 42" wrong. Anyway, I still believe the (export) SDL39 trucks are 12'2" wheelbase as opposed to 13'7".
Jason
OK, found the drawing, don't know it's original source.
Jason
Could be an interesting model. Too old for my era, however. However, when I saw the drawing posted above, I had to laugh out loud thinking it looks like a Lionel 1970s abomination of a locomotive model....LOL!
@Hot Water posted:
The 3 axels one each truck were not evenly spaced. From the center axel =one was 5 1/2' the other 6 1/2' I think. Don't quite remember but the are two different distances.
Dick
@Jason Dickie posted:OK, found the drawing, don't know it's original source.
Jason
They ended up in Chile thus the reference to Chilean Railways and were re-gaued to 5'.
Dick
It almost looks like a 'kit bash' project. A chassis from a Lionel SD18 and a body shell from a GP38. Not 100% accurate, but fairly close.
I cut up a GP38 shell and took about 5' out of the shell. That was about as far as I got.
Dick
@Chuck Sartor posted:It almost looks like a 'kit bash' project. A chassis from a Lionel SD18 and a body shell from a GP38. Not 100% accurate, but fairly close.
That would bear somewhat of a resemblance, and if you're using the lionel parts you suggested than it would likely look the part in a lionel toy train fleet.
That being said: there are enough differences between the sdl39 and any other locomotive that I think it would be extremely hard (not impossible) to capture the true look with anything but a properly done brass model.
@Hot Water posted:For what it's worth, there were only 10 built, all delivered to the Milwaukee Road. Also, the correct model designation is SDL39, i.e. NOT "SDL-39"!
You're right. I'm so sorry.
@CBQer posted:I cut up a GP38 shell and took about 5' out of the shell. That was about as far as I got.
Dick
It's been previously suggested that one start with a GP-35 body, (there I go again GP35):-)
Main problem with that is a GP35 has 3 cooling fans.
Here is some pictures of one of the two , 3-Rail kitbash I did, this one I did back about 8 years ago. It is a combination of a K-line GP38-2, an Atlas RSD4/5 for the power trucks and motors, an overland fuel tank that I cut down. I also re-arranged the engine doors to match the prototype
Terrific stuff Mike, must crack on with my D&H Bi-Cen chop-nose RS3u!
Dick, I think I found it from Google and I'll try that again to find the source. The reference to Chilean railways surprised me because I kid myself I saw the drawing with the noticeable difference in dimensions from way back before they went there. Anyway, can't remember if I've had my second cuppa' tea this morning so ....
Jason
Hi Dick
As an Englishman always asking questions about Nth American railroads, I quickly got into the habit of asking that brilliant Irishman G O'Ogle first! My search for 'emd sdl39 diesel loco drawings' threw up the drawing I posted above. I suspect it is a 'standard' EMD sales brochure drawing(?), tastefully updated!
I was involved with Gilmaur diesel kits a few years ago and we used drawings from the same source in our SW1500 kit. OK, OK, I'll come quietly officer, but we thought the dwgs would be unwanted/out of copyright(?) by the time we needed them!
Google threw up the usual range of images, one of which referenced this Flickr group:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/emd_sdl39/?rb=1
Absolutely terrific selection. Don't know if you know, but way back Wisconsin Central's owner acquired other railroads including English, Welsh and Scottish Railways here in the UK. Great paint scheme for modelers, shame it's gone.
Although I've been modelling Nth Am rrs for 45 years, one of our O-scale manufacturers (Dapol) has announced a Class 66 made in Canada and the USA ... so I must get one in nearly Wisc Cen paint!!
https://www.mainlinediesels.ne...=1000603&lang=en
Jason
The Milwaukee SDL39s used to run a lot in southern Minnesota and northern Iowa as the trackage was old, tired, and lightweight. I photoed a couple of them in Spencer, Iowa, a town of about 10,000 people.
They went from Milwaukee to Wisconsin Central to Wisconsin Southern to Fepasa in Chile. There were only 9 left at that time.
Dick
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