Seeking PW F3 Horizontal Field & Brushplate Riveted Stud

There is a 2333M-25 rivet listed in both The Train Tender and Brasseur Electric Trains parts lists. That sounds like it is what you are looking for.

If not, give them both a call, and they should be able to direct you to the correct part.

Larry

TrainLarry posted:

There is a 2333M-25 rivet listed 

Unfortunately that is NOT the part I am seeking.

Since that stud was never offered as a separate part back in the day, you may haft to find the whole motor frame assembly.

I would like to find some 2333M-15 idler gear assemblies, this part is hard to find too.

Chuck Sartor posted:

Since that stud was never offered as a separate part back in the day, you may haft to find the whole motor frame assembly.

Yeah, I'll do that if necessary, but I am hopeful that isn't the case...

Chuck Sartor posted:

I would like to find some 2333M-15 idler gear assemblies, this part is hard to find too.

Those seem to be pretty available: https://www.google.com/search?q=lionel+2333M-15

Thanks, BM most of them are used, and probably worn out bushing.

Have you talked to Bob hannon.?.

The 2343m-1 motor uses a 2343-105 stud.

Lionel Parts posted:

The 2343m-1 motor uses a 2343-105 stud.

Interesting - I am unable to find a reference to that part in any literature I've come across thus far, nor have I seen that part number from any parts supplier, including yourself.

Try Len Carparelli..He has 2343-105x listed on his screws and hardware list.     John K

jjk58 posted:

Try Len Carparelli..He has 2343-105x listed on his screws and hardware list.     John K

DOH!  I can't believe I didn't think to check Nyerges now operated by Len!

I would have suggested them, but I thought is was original part only.

Chuck Sartor posted:

I would have suggested them, but I thought is was original part only.

Are you saying that theirs is not like the original, but threaded behind the field?

Correct. Uses a 6-32 nut to hold in place, not riveted. For the 2343 motor only. I have not seen any 2333 motor studs at all.

The stud for the 2333 motor is 2333m-5 .

BM, anything new to report???

Here is a Lionel drawing for the 2333M-5

David Johnston posted:

Here is a Lionel drawing for the 2333M-5

Wow! @David Johnston, where does one find such a resource as that!!!!!!!

Bob Osterhoff, trainpaper.com, has the Lionel Engineering Standards available on CD. These are not the actual manufacturing drawings.  These are detailed sketches used to try to get their design engineers to use parts in new designs that they already had detailed drawings and tooling for.  I would guess there is information of about 10,000 Lionel postwar parts in this document. 

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"Failure is only the opportunity to begin again- this time more  wisely"-Henry Ford. I am just trying to shorten the learning  curve for myself..

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