jim pastorius posted:"fairness" ?? The 3 women on the steam engine look like Germans or French.
Exactly what do French or German women look like?
If you need to ask, I can't help you, besides only given out on a "need to know" basis.
Right.
I guess you're pretty clueless to make that assumption then, because the women are clearly on an American steam locomotive. Maybe you can tell us if they're French-American or German-American? Because their features are quite clear in that photo.
Kelly - You win the cigar ! USRA heavy 4-6-2's had Baker valve gear. Maybe CRRNJ 4-6-2? Or maybe any where/any road USA ?? !!
There appears to be a bit of a skirt on the running board; maybe that's a clue to what locomotive it might be.
smd4 posted:<snip>The "conductor" label was applied by a lay person who doesn't know the difference between a conductor and an engineer/fireman.
To this day, nobody in the media knows the difference. Every time there is an incident involving a train, the idiots on TV news will be referring to the engineer as "the conductor".
seaboardm2 posted:I know santa fe had some wemen working on the railroad.
Not sure if that's a typo or if you're a Scotsman commenting on the diminutive stature of some ATSF employees. (Wee men)
lehighline posted:Back to the original photo. Clearly this is a staged photo with a brand new engine. Just look how clean everything is! I strongly suspect an engine with any appreciable service time on it would be showing quite a bit of general dirtiness.
But I do have a question, most likely for Hotwater or Rich. On the drivers, just inboard of the tires, are a row of either acorn nuts or rivets. What is their purpose? I don't remember seeing these on either the NKP 756 or the RDG 2102.
Chris
LVHR
Unless the young lady is exceptionally tall, that's not a very high-drivered machine.
How about a New York Central K-11 with 69" drivers. Right type of crosshead and valve gear for that engine.
Edit: Not a K-11. Wrong valve gear hangar and air reservoir in the wrong location.
EBT Jim posted:jhz563 posted:My coworker is a mechanical engineer like myself. She can hold her own with any other engineer in the power industry. (Heck - I recruited her to work with again when we needed to fill that position.) When I took my engineering degree I would say about 15% of the students were women, including my “little sister” in the fraternity I belonged to. …...
My Mom was a young kid US Army nurse during WWII. Then, continued to be a nurse throughout her life. Not many options for women back then, for the most part.
Now, I go back to Rutgers U Engineering where I attended in the '80s, and there are many women, in all of the engineering departments. Both American and foreign students. Women faculty members. There's a chapter of the national women engineers sorority thriving on campus.
Things have changed, and that's good.
My brother's kindergarten teacher in the early 1960's was a trained aeronautical engineer, during WWII she was part of the Women's air transport branch that ferried planes from the factory to destination points overseas and also did a little flight test on the planes as well, she had studied with one of the top aerodynamics experts in the world....and ended up a teacher because post WWII, the only company that would hire female engineers was Hughes aircraft, and then very few. Yep, times have changed, and for the better, the heads of engineering and design at several car companies are women, the head of GM is a trained engineer.
As far as the original picture goes, that is a publicity still of some sort, and in general publicity stills show an idealized view of whatever it is, they aren't designed for realism. Ever see publicity scenes of engineers operating a steam locomotive, or scenes showing railroad workers installing new track, etc? You don't see them sweating or freezing, you don't see a fireman all covered in soot and sweat, you don't see track gang guys with filthy clothing, bent over from back strain, weathered, dirty faces....you see a smiling person in clean clothes who looks like they love doing the job.
There's a replica Santa Fe tin sign (that I'd like to get a copy of!) called "Cute Caboose" and has a Santa Fe Caboose on it. I'm pretty sure Santa Fe wasn't trying to represent the young lady on the sign as part of the train crew.
Byrdie posted:There's a replica Santa Fe tin sign (that I'd like to get a copy of!) called "Cute Caboose" and has a Santa Fe Caboose on it. I'm pretty sure Santa Fe wasn't trying to represent the young lady on the sign as part of the train crew.
Those cheesecake tin signs do not in any way represent actual railroad advertising.
They are strictly railfan fantasies.
Rusty
Rusty Traque posted:Byrdie posted:There's a replica Santa Fe tin sign (that I'd like to get a copy of!) called "Cute Caboose" and has a Santa Fe Caboose on it. I'm pretty sure Santa Fe wasn't trying to represent the young lady on the sign as part of the train crew.
Those cheesecake tin signs do not in any way represent actual railroad advertising.
They are strictly railfan fantasies.
Rusty
You mean this isn't official??? 
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scale rail posted:I think the starched outfit and the shoes give it away. Don
talk about a photo op, HA!
Rusty Traque posted:Byrdie posted:There's a replica Santa Fe tin sign (that I'd like to get a copy of!) called "Cute Caboose" and has a Santa Fe Caboose on it. I'm pretty sure Santa Fe wasn't trying to represent the young lady on the sign as part of the train crew.
Those cheesecake tin signs do not in any way represent actual railroad advertising.
They are strictly railfan fantasies.
Rusty
I take you had trouble seeing my tongue firmly implanted in my cheek ...
