Should they make the Phantom in UP color scheme and theme?

The UP never owned any phantoms did they?

Good idea Marty with new color schemes for a Phantom.  There is a legend in Texas about "The Ghosts of the Alamo". and there is a haunted RR tunnel in Texas also, so it would be appropriate to do a Texas Special Phantom set.

Steve, Lady and Steve 

Marty, when is the last time you slept? You be talking all crazy

Oh yes....and put the Southern Pacific Daylight paint scheme on one too.  I'll try to find the prototype pics.

Keith, I like your signature train.  Colors are awesome.

Steve, Lady and Tex

Hey...the truth is......only the Phantom knows!!

Seriously though....introducing the Phantom in different railroad color schemes may be a good seller...??  Just wish the passenger cars would be re-designed to make the train look more continuous...

Alan

Marty...looks like we agree...BUT...as far as the society having a vision...well, they must have turned a blind's eye when it came to the cars!!

Alan

This sounds like another project for Lee Willis. 

How can you make a scale model of something that does not exsist?  And I thought Coors withdrew train modeling agreements?

It's keeping within the context of the overall thread; the idea of prototype road names on a fantasy train.  I'm just upping the ante.

BTW, there's no such thing as a "scale" Polar Express either; that just exists as illustrations in a children's book.

I think it's about 3/16ths of an inch too short in height and width to be completely scale Marty.

As for a UP version, I would vote for "no". You've got to leave something for Lee that needs to be repainted. 

That said, I'm pretty sure PRR would have had them. Afterall, they were "The Standard Railroad of the World" (which means if it had wheel flanges, they probably owned and operated at least one version of it) 

 Don't shoot me, I'm just goofing here.....

Gilly

And if you use the book as a reference, the model locomotive's are the wrong type.  In the book the Polar Express locomotive is a Pacific, not a Berkshire.

Rusty

Exactly.

Yes. But only if it's a Visionline.

The front headlight bezel was also 1/2" wider in diameter on the UP prototype than those used on other roads.  The intake fan below the headlight was countersunk into the nose on the UP version too.

VisionLine Phantom.

Die cast, with eight speakers, twelve smoke units, depleting bar car, and in the new VisionLine Chameleon scheme.

If Lionel wants to sell a bunch they should have Star Wars and Star Trek versions.  Unfortunately the licensing will probably be too expensive.

Their use would be for a 'fog' effect. It would also require the use of dry ice in place of smoke fluid.

Alan,

I agree completely!!!  I've thought about the set a couple times... but the passenger cars just don't work for me.  The train looks too broken-up.  If they were more continuous, or even articulated, I would be all for it.

Couple that with an all black (or black with gray trim) Phantom livery, maybe some red or green lighting, and we would have a nice stealthy look.

-Dustin

I'd like to see N&W redbird scheme.  ACL purple might look interesting too. 

They had several built, but at the request of the newly organized CIA, they were turned over to the US Army Intelligence. They have been used to move, under strict security measures, many highly classified  items, from weapons, to even the remains of the Roswell Crash Landing, and recovery of the unearthly remains for authopsy. Many have heard the rush of their engines, and felt the wind on their back, and the raised bumps on the skin when these take trackage at night. Credit Lionel and their engineers for introducing this Top-Secret vehicle to the public.

Runours abound, that those that have purchased the "Phantom" feel that they are being watched, and every movement recorded.

Thanks for doing that!  I'm interested in whether it has the "as delivered" plutonium cooling tubes or the graphite cooling rods of the later "in service" version.  If those tubes are present I'll probably forgo a purchase (regardless of any upgraded passenger cars) as it does not fit my era.

Would the colors be Silver and Armour Yellow for the UNION PACIFIC?

How would they use the colors on the Phantom?

Andrew

Oh-oh...

Clean up, aisle 6!

Agent R

 Maybe there should be a PE phantom that picks up all those who can "no longer hear the bell" and drops them off at the south pole.

BTW good luck counting rivets on an all welded locomotive....... Mr. Korling

What about engineer and fireman figures?

This?

This?

Or this?

Marty,

Coincidentally, the UP Phantom prototype also used to pull the very same caboose as Matt Makens recently bought (his picture of it referenced below):

What?  Then does that mean that UP never, ever owned a Phantom engine either?

Thanks.  It is supposed to be the GM Train of Tomorrow.  3rd Rail is working on an O scale set...I can't wait.

Where is the UP Overland Route shield?

Doctored out by the O.S.S.

Rusty

Be carefull out there, and always check your rear view mirror. Your a brave man to dwell were many feared to.

Hopefully we won't be seeing your image on a milk carton.