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I thought I had overfilled my Cab Forward.  All of a sudden I had NO smoke.  I turned the engine upside down overnight, gave it another day to dry out and lo and behold - no smoke.  Could it be dry?  I added about 12 drops and she is now smoking just fine.  Based on my observations, I would conclude that in these dual chamber smoke units running smoke at low to medium you get maybe 20 to 30 minutes for every 10 drops.  Just a guess at this point but I plan on paying more attention.  What has your experience been?  I realize a rule of thumb would be different for different smoke units and different smoke level settings but a guideline would be helpful.  Comments?

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Originally Posted by Dillon:

I thought I had overfilled my Cab Forward.  All of a sudden I had NO smoke.  I turned the engine upside down overnight, gave it another day to dry out and lo and behold - no smoke.  Could it be dry?  I added about 12 drops and she is now smoking just fine.  Based on my observations, I would conclude that in these dual chamber smoke units running smoke at low to medium you get maybe 20 to 30 minutes for every 10 drops.  Just a guess at this point but I plan on paying more attention.  What has your experience been?  I realize a rule of thumb would be different for different smoke units and different smoke level settings but a guideline would be helpful.  Comments?

if these engines are like the Big Boy 10-12 drops isn't enough. try this add 20 drops wait 1 minute blow a light whiff of air in stack fire it up and see how it does.

 

I have done this starting with the atsf #3751 engine and with the big boy they seem to respond well to it.

 

well for me anyways.

Originally Posted by ST PAUL:
Originally Posted by Dillon:

I thought I had overfilled my Cab Forward.  All of a sudden I had NO smoke.  I turned the engine upside down overnight, gave it another day to dry out and lo and behold - no smoke.  Could it be dry?  I added about 12 drops and she is now smoking just fine.  Based on my observations, I would conclude that in these dual chamber smoke units running smoke at low to medium you get maybe 20 to 30 minutes for every 10 drops.  Just a guess at this point but I plan on paying more attention.  What has your experience been?  I realize a rule of thumb would be different for different smoke units and different smoke level settings but a guideline would be helpful.  Comments?

if these engines are like the Big Boy 10-12 drops isn't enough. try this add 20 drops wait 1 minute blow a light whiff of air in stack fire it up and see how it does.

 

I have done this starting with the atsf #3751 engine and with the big boy they seem to respond well to it.

 

well for me anyways.

ST PAUL, How much "run time" on the Big Boy would you estimate that you get from 20 drops?

I have done this on two of my Legacy engines and it works great.  I am not sure if it had compressed fiberglass but when I put in the 8inch wicking and shred it, my smoke output is really good.  Also recently when I was working on my Legacy K4 there was hardly any wicking in the main stack - I believe this could also contribute to how much output you get and what gets absorbed if you overfill by a drop or two.  I am not an expert but trying to learn.  Others on this forum have been a big help to me .....
 
I may be wrong but Rule of thumb is hard because reservoirs are different sizes and configured different for different engines.
 
Originally Posted by Marty Fitzhenry:

These engines use the currently used compressed fiberglass pads that the heater rests on.  Not a good way to go.  Pull it out and replace with the older wicking that you should shread like Mike Reagan showed in a video he made.

 

Last edited by NYCGreg68

I posted this same issue with my Cab Forward a couple weeks ago. I thought I had a problem with mine as it wouldn't smoke, so I tore it apart to find out why. The wick was bone dry! I thought I had over filled it.. but it was dry. The wick had even started to char from being dry. I took that wick out, turned it over, and tore it apart so it wasn't 1 big chunk of fiberglass. Absorbs the smoke fluid a lot better once it was flipped over ( I tore off the little bit of char and threw that away) and pulled apart, then stuffed back I there. I eventually had 45 drops in the bowl.... and it would smoke you out of the train room. It does take a few minutes to heat up the fluid, once it is fully saturated.   

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