Looking for a good source for the LMS Crimson deep glossy red paint to re-restore a Bassett Lowke Super Enterprise steamer. It was restored in the past with more of a flat/satin finish instead of the nice deep gloss paint it should have. Needs to be a good hard enamal paint as its a pot boiler live steamer that will get run. Also source for new LMS decals and lining for the tender and cab sides. First pic is my engine, should have her in my hands next week from the UK, a general clean up and polish for now, but I want to make her look closer to the lower pic, I will also paint the wheel centers in the red just to dress her up, saw a pic of someone that did that and it really dresses her up. Etched brass name plates will go on the smoke lifters. And, yes she comes with the steam dome that is commonly missing. Thanks in advance. Mike the Aspie
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I reckon you will just keep replacing that lovely shade with new coats.
The official name is 'Crimson Lake' - dunno why. Here's a source for the oil-base enamel.
Yep, the down side to a spirit fired pot boiler in Crimson Lake(figured most on my side of the pond wouldn't get the "lake" part) is a sooty middle section. I have read up on how to minimize this with proper wiping down as soon as she is cool enough to handle after a run. I will see how well she polishes up once in my hands. Might look good enough to leave alone other than some touchup on the splashers above the drivers and some etched brass name plates either above the middle driver or on the smoke lifters. Maxed out my budget to get it, was planning to get just a simple Duke of York CW engine, track and a few wagons. Instead I just bought this. A Super E is much harder to find that the Duke of York CW loco. Mike the Aspie
Nice purchase, are you sure it is repainted? Just that it looks original to me, and I've seen quite a few over the years, but, I am viewing this via my mobile phone right now, so that doesn't help!
Cheers, Mark.
I think it looks very good and shouldn't be repainted, especially if you are going to run it in steam since it will look like this again after a few runs only.
Regards
Fred
sncf231e posted:I think it looks very good and shouldn't be repainted, especially if you are going to run it in steam since it will look like this again after a few runs only.
Regards
Fred
Unfortunately a True English "Trainspotter" wouldn't have any of that! It's Spit-Polish all the way!
Re-paint if you want a shelf Queen.
If you run it, leave it as the discoloration is character or a badge of honor.
I would just use a automotive polish on it to keep it at the present condition.
What a great find! Enjoy! Post a video of it running
Artfull Dodger, having had the chance to view the photos on my computer at home, I would say that your Super Enterprise is original, by the wheel nuts securing the driving wheels, it is a post WW2 example, and B/L LMS livery was all over the place after the war, they even did one batch of LMS Compound locos in what would best be described as chestnut brown!
Cheers, Mark.
I am with the NO painters - looks GREAT as is, and the heat of the boiler when operating under steam will scorch the paint! GOOD LUCK either way you choose to go!
I would not touch her, she is beautiful as is, a graceful old lady.
Miketg
Ditto!
We shall see how good she looks in person next week. Pictures can hide a multitude of sins. Thanks for the comments. Mike the Aspie
artfull dodger posted:Yep, the down side to a spirit fired pot boiler in Crimson Lake(figured most on my side of the pond wouldn't get the "lake" part) is a sooty middle section. I have read up on how to minimize this with proper wiping down as soon as she is cool enough to handle after a run. I will see how well she polishes up once in my hands. Might look good enough to leave alone other than some touchup on the splashers above the drivers and some etched brass name plates either above the middle driver or on the smoke lifters. Maxed out my budget to get it, was planning to get just a simple Duke of York CW engine, track and a few wagons. Instead I just bought this. A Super E is much harder to find that the Duke of York CW loco. Mike the Aspie
Well, I just had to look that up........ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_pigment
Hope to hear from the dealer soon that she is on her way to me. Got plenty of alcohol fuel here, I have an old G scale Shay made in the late 1980's that is an alcohol fired pot type boiler, but a wick type and not a vaporizing unit. From what I read, that is the only down side to the "super" version of the Enterprise. As the regular 4-4-0 Enterprise was a wick type that was a bit more reliable in breezy conditions. I have a friend that builds live steamers, might have him make a duplicate burner set up tank wise, but have wicks instead of the vaporizing unit. My railway area is in the lee of the house, so unless its really windy, its pretty sheltered there. Guess I will find out later this spring. Mike the Aspie.