Southern Pacific Scale Stock Car

I find that prototypical stock cars for ANY railroad, are pretty hard to find, especially in any quantity. Weaver had some really nice scale stock cars in their various catalogues, but they have not actually produced them in some years.

You are confusing the original poster's request for "Stock Cars", i.e. for live stock, in SCALE SIZE, with a "scale test car" (used to test scales for weighing freight cars), which is DEFINITELY NOT designed to carry live stock. 

What complicates this is that because so many of them were made of wood they were subject to modification, plus they varied by road and builder. Then you have the cattle (single level) vs. sheep/hog (two-level) vs. poultry (three-level) configurations.

There were also 50-foot cars made by splicing the ends of damaged 40-foot cars together (sounds like an interesting kit-bash).

And that's why they do not need to be SCALE.

The prototypes were all sizes and configurations, buy any stock car you can get, it's scale for something.

Not necessarily. It could be an "027 compressed" model, and one like that sure wouldn't like "right" compared to some other scale sized stock car, such as the Lionel, Weaver, and Atlas scale size cars.

And where the issue I primarily would be concerned with in regards to mixing & matching scale & semi-scale stock cars would be with the width.  While stock cars, like boxcars, came in a variety of height and length configurations, they all still were pretty much the same width.  This is very noticeable too, not just the height & length.  I know the Lionel traditionally-sized stock cars are undersize in width, and certainly look out of place next to a scale-sized one.

I know of only the following scale SP stock cars:

Weaver 2004 Item U4313 made in 4 numbers - brown

Petersen Supply 1999? Item OS-109 made in 3 numbers - brown

Ramon

Matt, why not buy something like this on E-bay and re-letter it. Don

Very nice. Are decals still available for stock cars, now that Champ Decal Co. is gone, and Micro-Scale is almost gone?

Also, who manufactured that model?

I did a little more research.  I still didn't find any scale SP stock cars.  SP had a narrow gauge line that ran thru Owens Valley, CA.  And I found a pic of Stock Car #163 which was used from about 1900-1960.  I also found a drawing of an SP stock car that was built in the 1920's and a "modern" (not steam era) stock car.  Lastly I found an America Mainline 1:29 scale SP stock car.  I guess that's what they would prototypically look like in O gauge.  Matt

Use Lionel's 6-17715 Missouri Pacific stock car and pretend it's interchange or paint over 'Missouri' and 'M' and paste an SP logo over the MoPac logo (same shape).

Very nice.

 

Also, who manufactured that model?

 

OK, that does it.

February will be the month for the O Scale Freight Car Guide to Stock Cars!

That MoPac car is the Lionel ACF stock car.  It is a nice looking model and a good runner too.  It is the best steam era O scale stock car model that we have.  Take a look at one that SIRT weathered here. 

https://ogrforum.com/t.../trackside-steam-era

I hope that one our our manufacturers that has tooling for USRA box cars can use the roof and ends with new sides for a stock car.  Many transition era stock cars were rebuilt from USRA type box cars.

Hot Water, it was made by Lionel. Don

Before WWII these were available in kit form:

My understanding is that, while ten feet was a nominal freight car width, quite a few wood cars were only 8' wide.  I don't know how wide the O-27 cars are, but if two inches wide they would suffice.  Some modelers want all cars the same height and width, and that is ok, just not prototypical.

looking forward to February's effort!

There are likely some road-specific stock cars to be found in 2-rail brass. I see all sorts of unusual freight cars coming up on eBay in the Brass Imports category, but it's had to predict what will be available on any given day. Might be worth a look. You might also want to post over on the 2-rail board to see if anyone knows what has been made.