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I am having trouble getting my MTH Proto 1 engines to start up using the Lionel Legacy base and a TPC300. I have tried using the procedure that is suggested in the TPC300's instruction manual but with no luck. it seems like the starting voltage is to high which will not allow the engine to come out of the program mode. I am new to the Lionel Legacy controller so any help would be appreciated....Thanks

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If I remember correctly, the very early TPCs from I C Controls had a similar problem. The fix was to lower the voltage supply to the TPC  to around 12 volts, get the engine out of reset and moving and raise the voltage back up again. Easy to do with a PW.ZW.. The other fix was to start the engine on a siding not controlled by the TPC and run it out to the tpc controlled track.

 

A bit of a pain either way. Hopefully  you get it straighten out before reading this.  Come to think about it, I believe it only applied to certain MTH proto-1 engines , (very early ones, around 1995 and before 97,

Last edited by Gregg
Originally Posted by OG3RAIL:

seems like the starting voltage is to high which will not allow the engine to come out of the program mode. I am new to the Lionel Legacy controller so any help would be appreciated....Thanks

you are probably correct not comming out of reset.

these engines can be tough starting even with a Z-4000 in conventional mode.

 That why I replaced all the batteries with BCR's

 

After you power up

Shut the power off

Then bring the voltage to 6 volts for about three seconds,shut the power off, then power up to 8 volts again and you shoul get the engine sounds etc. 

You know, my Proto 1 engine ran better with my Lionel KW than with the Z1000 and controller.  not sure why.  but I had background noise when I ran it with the Z1000 and no buzzing with the KW!!!!!  go figure!  I thought of doing a switching power supply with a physical power switch when I want to run the Proto 1's I use the KW power and proto 2 swtch back to the Bricks to the TIU.  I think it could be done instead of dedicating a track to proto 1 only.  but it seems to run better with the KW.
Chris
 
Originally Posted by OG3RAIL:

I am having trouble getting my MTH Proto 1 engines to start up using the Lionel Legacy base and a TPC300. I have tried using the procedure that is suggested in the TPC300's instruction manual but with no luck. it seems like the starting voltage is to high which will not allow the engine to come out of the program mode. I am new to the Lionel Legacy controller so any help would be appreciated....Thanks

 

Sounds like a good idea I am going to try this.
 
Originally Posted by Gregg:

If I remember correctly, the very early TPCs from I C Controls had a similar problem. The fix was to lower the voltage supply to the TPC  to around 12 volts, get the engine out of reset and moving and raise the voltage back up again. Easy to do with a PW.ZW.. The other fix was to start the engine on a siding not controlled by the TPC and run it out to the tpc controlled track.

 

A bit of a pain either way. Hopefully  you get it straighten out before reading this.  Come to think about it, I believe it only applied to certain MTH proto-1 engines , (very early ones, around 1995 and before 97,

 

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