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Finally ran a 2004 purchased 3rd Rail M1b under TMCC  on my nearly completed layout.  Performance and sound was great for nearly twenty minutes until smoke came out of the cab while backing into siding.  Speed sensor burned up and most likely took out R2LC as it is the power source for the sensor.  No replacement parts as TAS EOB is so yesterday.

Sound board and it's power supply seem fine.    Communicated with Ken at ERR about getting one of their RS4 motherboard/power supply boards.  Long gone.

I'm committed to replacing the EOB with an ERR Cruise Commander but would very much like to salvage the RS4 sound.  Another $80 or so for a generic sound set seems too punitive.  I've been all through the Lionel RS4 - RS5 motherboards but from the many descriptions,   tiny pictures, and even some steam tender wiring schematics can not make a truly informed choice.  Looking for a board to use the serial out from the Cruise Commander, need only the RS board/Power supply,  and if necessary, utilize a chuff sensor.  Any suggestions? 

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I would bet your R2lc board is fine.  EOB sensor boards had a habit of failing and going nuclear if the board lost ground.  I may have a spare one for sale if your interest. But back to your engine is it a 8 or 10 pin tether?  If it's an eight you will have to ad an extra ground wire from the sensor to the EOB motherboard.  This sensor board failure was common in early 3rdrail engines where the sensor board uses chassis ground on the engine and the ground was somehow lost between sensor and the EOB in the tender.

 

that is if you decide to not go with an ERR UPGRADE

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I would suggest this one if you go with a Cruise Commander. The CC comes with a new R4LC so you only need connectors for the two audio boards. The pins appear to be clearly marked. You may have to buy or fabricate a connector between the Cruise Commander and audio motorboard for the serial data. 

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RS4 and RS5 boards are interchangable.

Pete

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Very quick response by some helpful folks. 

I'm still evaluating my options on this locomotive.  The speed sensor is burned up and I was told these things are extinct.  This is the only loco on my roster with this system.  Further checkout of the R2LC (08) revealed it is no longer serviceable.  So a EOB motherboard/driver unit?  Receiver for sure?  Speed sensor board, absolutely?   Worth it?  Who knows.

Eight conductor tether with a ground pulled through.  Tender ground, tether, loco frame, solder pad on sensor board all one electrically.  

I'm comfortable with the ERR driver boards.  Serial out to, and used by a railsounds motherboard with my good sound and RS power supply may be the most cost effective route.  

I think I researched all the Lionel motherboards and the  have the 691-MB08-A01 on my short list.  Not to spendy,  even from Lionel, and, I need some other things as well.  Thanks for the confirmation. 

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