Sunset "Jawn Henry"

This is my fourth turbine. MTH has already done the C&O M1 (twice) and the UP Coal Turbine. Yes, I know there are other UP Turbines, but if it doesn't burn coal, I'm not interested..

I have both of these along with a 3rd Rail PRR S2 Turbine. The only "missing" Turbine that I'm aware of is the UP Steam Turbine Electric...

Not splitting hairs, but I believe that overall the C&O M1 #500/501 and UP #80 are both longer than the 2300.

Gilly

Scott, I would really prefer to have a N&W 0-8-0 S1a. The 0-8-0s offered by MTH/Lionel are based upon a USRA design and do not represent a "proper" N&W S1a. Cab #244 was the very last steam engine built in America making it (in my opinion) a significant locomotive. The S1s carried N&W, Virginian, and C&O liveries. This would provide more potential buyers. 

However, if you build this UP Turbine, count this as the 1st reservation....

Good grief! Where in the world would Scott get drawings for that UP thing?

The UP turbine has been made, just in the wrong scale.

http://www.brasstrains.com/ima.../036778/DSC02235.jpg

WOW, I had no idea.....

HW, I posted the UP pic only because that is the only one I'm aware of that has not already been done. Please don't think it's on my "get list". I'll buy turbines, but I'd much rather have anything N&W, first....

Gilly

I agree. In fact I wouldn't purchase one of those UP turbine things, no matter how cheap the price would be!

Would somebody please put out an O-scale Western Pacific 250 series 2-8-8-2. This has only been put out once in HO scale.  I'd swore that I wouldn't get anymore brass after the Sunset S.P. AC-9, but if Scott put this one out, I will have to have it!!!

Although the Jawn Henry had between 4500 -5000 drawbar horsepower, it had 4 3-axle trucks that were similar to diesels and this gave it an astounding 224,000 pounds of tractive effort at 1 mile/hour.  Offhand, I don't know of any single piece of motive power that exceeded that (including U.P.'s Big Blows).  This monstrosity could apparently pull a 200 car coal train up a 1% grade.  Because of the design of the traction motors, like diesels, this high tractive effort dropped alot after 10-12 miles/hour. It was best designed for mountain grades where high speeds cannot be achieved.  Like Virginian's 2-10-10-2s (another beast I love), it best performed at extremely slow speeds 

I don't think UP 80B was longer.  I was speaking of a single thing, not the overall length including the tenders, etc. 

Yes I saw it run.  A real stump puller.  While it will go around 054 curves IMHO it looks silly doing so.  The front end is almost 90 degrees around the curve before the back end starts.  For folks who think full scale passenger cars look silly around short radius curves this thing is almost as long as 2 full scale passenger cars in one thing so...

Hopefully someone in the know will post a critique.  Something like an Erik Lindgren photo essay as we saw for the E7s.  Even if you are not an operator I think it will make a unique (and wow) conversation piece.

I will run mine on Atlas flex track which has a radius around 80 inches. I have it wired for 2 and 3 rail, but I have a 30+ car freight train of mixed brass, wood/metal, and plastic cars waiting for this monster to come.  It will look good on this radius along with my other giant articulateds, not much overhang.

What? You mean "mixed freight cars"? I think you'll find that the "Jawn Henry" handled COAL, and only COAL. Thus you need about 50 or so Rich Yoder N&W 2-bay coal hoppers,,,,,right?

I saw a couple of photos showing the Jawn Henry at the beginning of its brief career at the head end of a normal freight train.  It didn't have an auxiliary water tender yet and the exposed tank on the tender was there.  These may have been tests runs. Check out the N&W Historical society's webpage of Jawn Henry pictures.  This wasn't the norm.  I wish I had 30+ Rich Yoder hoppers to run or could afford to buy that many!

Robert, with 80-inch radius you will be able to run in notch 12.

There are a coupler of pictures in Newton's book "The Tale of a Turbine" with 2300 pulling freight.  He also discusses timed freight assignments.

Page 800 of The Tale of a Turbine shows the 2300 on the point of a Timed mixed freight. The bulk of it's time was coal, but not 100%. I think that's the picture Robert may have been referring to.

Looking forward to my 2300 arriving on Monday. Keep in mind that if you have purchased a 2300, it's very important to own a Y6b as well.  For prototypical running, you'll send the 2300 with it's consist partly around your layout. Park the 2300 on a siding and send the Y6b out to complete the run. Just a thought....

100+ Rich Yoder hoppers would be sweet, but I'm afraid I'll just have to settle for my MTH Premier. 

Gilly 

For all of you Pad-o-philes, there is a Jawn Henry Mouse Pad for sale on the bay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NORFOLK-WESTERN-JAWN-HENRY-RAILROAD-MOUSE-PAD-/281110893704?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417383d488

H/W,

Maybe one day you will embrace the adage "never say never".

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Page 800 of The Tale of a Turbine shows the 2300 on the point of a Timed mixed freight. The bulk of it's time was coal, but not 100%. I think that's the picture Robert may have been referring to.

That probably wasn't the only time either.

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Keep in mind that if you have purchased a 2300, it's very important to own a Y6b as well.  For prototypical running, you'll send the 2300 with it's consist partly around your layout. Park the 2300 on a siding and send the Y6b out to complete the run. Just a thought....

Now, that was funny!

Thank you, Big Jim. I really needed a new mouse pad for work...

Gilly

I have a Sunset Y6b that will go nicely at the head end of this freight.  My only concern is that the Jawn Henry pushing at the rear with its 12 pounds compared to the meager 7.5 pounds of the Y6b.  I tried this with my Northern Pacific Z-5 Yellowstone at the rear and a N.P. Z-6 Challenger at the head end.  The Z-6 couldn't handle its share for the Z-5 was exerting too much force at the rear. The Z-5 weighs 1.5 pounds more than the Z-6 and has more weight on the drivers.  There is also a 1% grade built into the layout due to the garage floor on a slight incline.  My Jawn Henry is also due Monday.  I normally workout at the gym on Mons., Weds, & Fri., but on this day I and the 30+ car freight train will be home waiting for UPS!!!

Robert,

I love this post, it is just how I feel when getting a new loco. 

Also pictured pulling mixed freight on page 874.

Just received notification from my carrier of choice that mine is waiting for me to pick it up.

Has anybody got their Jawn Henry yet? Would they care publishing pictures and comments, impressions?

Thanks in advance.

Yves

Already many photos posted over on the 3-Rail Trains Forum.

Check out this thread:

https://ogrforum.com/t...-3rd-rail-jawn-henry

Some engines arrived with bent drawbars and ladders.  I got mine, it's absolutely perfect.  While I don't have the bent drawbar issue, coupling the tether and hooking the drawbar is a tight fit - I was patient and all is well.  

I got mine yesterday and everything was OK. I oiled it up and test ran it last night.  This morning I added the freight cars and she ran well, not even challenged.  This is a very heavy engine and with all of this weight on the drivers is a great puller.  Excellent detail! I am EXTREMELY HAPPY!!!!!