I am wondering how easy it is to install one of these in a lionel N&W 611 6-38095? Do the wires come attached to the board already and you just have to solder the wires to the loco? How do they sound at high speed I see some people don't like the way they sound with 4 chuffs at high speed. Would like to hear from people that have this unit.
Thank you
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You do have to solder the wires to the board for the stock unit. I can arrange to ship you one with the wires already attached if you like, send me an email to my profile email address.
The Super-Chuffer will run with any number of chuffs/rev, so if you don't like the sound at 4/rev, leave it at 2/rev. The sound doesn't change with the installation of the Super-Chuffer, only the management of the smoke unit fan and the lighting features.
Yes, I have this unit, AAMOF, I have a lot of them. 
You will love the effects, I have three more engines to upgrade. Can I install in a MTH Challenger John? What would be used for the chuff trigger input to your board?
I am wondering how easy it is to install one of these in a lionel N&W 611 6-38095? Do the wires come attached to the board already and you just have to solder the wires to the loco? How do they sound at high speed I see some people don't like the way they sound with 4 chuffs at high speed. Would like to hear from people that have this unit.
Thank you
You will love the effects, I have three more engines to upgrade. Can I install in a MTH Challenger John? What would be used for the chuff trigger input to your board?
Gary, it's not really targeted for the MTH environment. The PS/2 electronics does a fine job of managing the smoke, obviously the Rule-17 lighting and cab light control is dependent on the specific model you have.
Agreed but my one challenger is lacking when it come to how well the fan pushes the smoke out
It's probably time for a repair and/or modification. FWIW, the Lionel scale Challenger has a terrible stack design, I did a LOT of Dremel work on one I had here for the Super-Chuffer upgrade to get the smoke to flow properly.
It's probably time for a repair and/or modification. FWIW, the Lionel scale Challenger has a terrible stack design, I did a LOT of Dremel work on one I had here for the Super-Chuffer upgrade to get the smoke to flow properly.
I was going open her up and check to see if the fan blades are slipping on the motor shaft.
any just purchased another engine that's going to get super-chuffer treatment
just purchased another engine that's going to get super-chuffer treatment
There's a lot of that going around.
Agreed but my one challenger is lacking when it come to how well the fan pushes the smoke out
Just rebuild the unit as John states. G
The Lionel scale TMCC Challenger has a wedge that sticks right into the fan stack and partially blocks the flow and breaks it up so it dribbles out instead of coming out in a stream. Also, due to the manifold on the smoke unit, all the smoke comes out the rear stack as well. I took a big part of that huge wedge out and also offset the split so that it divided the smoke more evenly. I kept a smooth polished ramp for both stacks, and when the mods were done, the improvement was pretty dramatic, it actually has smoke coming out both stacks and not hugging the boiler as it exits.
Whenever I can, I try to improve the smoke flow, but it's not always possible, this is one case where it was.
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