Switching to American engineers

George diSanti posted:

I decided to repaint a Sunset 3rd rail E8 and was wondering if anyone has changed the engineers to American engineers.

George DiSanti

Outside of Artista, where would one purchase "American Engineers"?

I'm an American Engineer.

How would you tell?  There are a lot of Americans of African or Oriental heritage - and probably more than a few of those are engineers.

In engineering grad school in the 1970s about a third of my classmates were of Chinese origin.  Most were US citizens.

George diSanti posted:

I decided to repaint a Sunset 3rd rail E8 and was wondering if anyone has changed the engineers to American engineers.

Where are they from now?

Unfortunately the molds are so worn down there is not much to work with but painting the exposed skin to a more natural skin color and toning down some of the clothes makes a big difference.  

Apparently no one here as really looked at the engineers. They are dressed as from the place the E8s were made (China) and are wearing face mask for the virus.

George DiSanti

Closing time...

These are available from ARtistta. I can remember engineers on the IC who still wore the pinstripes while engineering the Panama Limited with E7 & E8 locos. Every once in a while my mother would take me to the station in Jackson just to see the train come in (1955-1958 or so). In fact I just ask her about that to be sure, she is 94 and has a better memory than I do.

George diSanti posted:

Apparently no one here as really looked at the engineers. They are dressed as from the place the E8s were made (China) and are wearing face mask for the virus.

And these were imported when?

The E8 were import last year. I think it is way past time to make new people as they are very crude for a "quality product.

George DiSanti

I wish Scott M. Would do a rerun 3.0 EMD FP7's like he did with the EMD E7's.

I would be in for the EMD Demo and both versions of the PRR units. 

Thank you for the sources for engineer figures.  But Scott should step up to the plate and do quality figures with his "Quality" locomotive models!

George DiSanti

As long as you are repainting the loco, why not do the same to the engineer and brakeman.  These are some China/Ebay figures that I repatriated.

bob2 posted:

How would you tell?  There are a lot of Americans of African or Oriental heritage - and probably more than a few of those are engineers.

In engineering grad school in the 1970s about a third of my classmates were of Chinese origin.  Most were US citizens.

He's talking dress and attire. I fully get what he's saying. It had nothing to do with being negative toward "ethnic diversity" or race-baiting. AND, your example is definitely the wrong type of "engineer". I also got that, but either you didn't, or you were attempting to share a witticism.

George:

We HO'ers had the same situation with some of the earlier Proto 2000 releases in which the crew members were wearing hats like nothing you ever saw in the USA during the years those diesel models depicted.

We had only two options: Replace, or break out the files (if metal) and/or X-acto (if plastic) and get to work. Over the years I've turned HO scale cowboy hats into billed hats, etc. A bit of work, but worth it to use a good figure that showed up at the party wearing the wrong attire.

Andre

It's fairly obvious the molds for the figures are worn out. I would get a couple of Arttista figures, which are made of pewter and very realistic and replace them. Probably cost you  less than $20 for an engineer and fireman + ship.

https://www.modeltrainstuff.co...sta-Accessories.html

Or you could contact Sunset and complain to Scott. The only thing any of us here can do (cause we ain't buying you figures) is look at those little guys and giggle!

Simon

Brother_Love posted:

These are available from ARtistta. I can remember engineers on the IC who still wore the pinstripes while engineering the Panama Limited with E7 & E8 locos. Every once in a while my mother would take me to the station in Jackson just to see the train come in (1955-1958 or so). In fact I just ask her about that to be sure, she is 94 and has a better memory than I do.

I rode on a lot of engines when I worked for the NYC in the 60's.  The pinstriped overalls were worn mainly by old timers who had run steam engines.  Because of seniority, they were seen mainly on passenger trains.   Those who joined in the diesel era were more likely to wear ordinary work clothing.

Malcolm Laughlin

mlaughlinnyc posted:

Brother_Love posted:

These are available from ARtistta. I can remember engineers on the IC who still wore the pinstripes while engineering the Panama Limited with E7 & E8 locos. Every once in a while my mother would take me to the station in Jackson just to see the train come in (1955-1958 or so). In fact I just ask her about that to be sure, she is 94 and has a better memory than I do.

I rode on a lot of engines when I worked for the NYC in the 60's.  The pinstriped overalls were worn mainly by old timers who had run steam engines.  Because of seniority, they were seen mainly on passenger trains.   Those who joined in the diesel era were more likely to wear ordinary work clothing.

Malcolm Laughlin

 

The beauty of all this is, if you don't like your engineers attire, paint new duds on him/or her.

Simon