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Thinking about taking the family to NYC for Thanksgiving this year.  Ride Amtrak from Virginia to NYC, stay somewhere near Times Square or Macy's for the parade and then take in some sights. 

 

Looking for ideas about where to stay, some train related stores, layouts, or sights that would be reasonably close, and where to get turkey day lunch or dinner.

 

I have seen a few threads about NYC during the holidays but not sure what if anything will be open during Thanksgiving day or possibly the day before or after and appreciate your input.

 

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Come to think of it, if you have time to get off at 30th Street Station, Philadelphia, you could go upstairs and ride any SEPTA train for free to Center City. Get off at the second stop, Market Street East. Enjoy The Holiday Railroad at Reading Terminal Market. Visit the SEPTA Museum at 1234 Market Street. There will be train layouts and an immaculately restored PCC. Go west of City Hall and make your way to Center Court of Macy's (formerly John Wanamaker's). Watch the stories of The Nutcracker and Frosty the Snowman (narrated by Julie Andrews) unfold on a towering illuminated Christmas card. Walk or take a cab to The Franklin Institute. Ride in the cab of Baldwin 3-cylinder compound 4-10-2 No. 60000. Enjoy a show in the Fels Planetarium and maybe an IMAX movie.

 

Go back to 30th Street Station and ride to NYC. You could also use Center City SEPTA stations (Market Street East or Suburban Station under City Hall). Return to 30th Street Station by boarding any train on Track 3 or Track 4.

Thanksgiving DAY is a great day to go see the trains running at the Botanical Gardens. You can get there from Times Sq station  in about 30 minutes. I went on Thanksgiving morning three years ago and it was great - no crowds.

 

Thanksgiving to New Years is a wonderful time in NYC. Make sure you walk around central park especially the area known as Poets Walk.

 

Paul

The NJ Hi-Railers layout is a must see if you will be in the area. we are having an open house in November before Thanksgiving, date to be determined. we are also there every Wednesday, you can contact me for a visit anytime. email is in my profile.  Enoteca Maria in Staten Island would be my choice for a fantastic meal prepared by Italian grandmothers.

Your going to be arriving at penn station. The original penn station was demolished to allow the construction of Madison square garden. Ugly.  Grand central is awesome. It is on 42 and park. Penn station is on 33 and 7th. 
The restaurant john s suggested is right up the block from the free Staten Island ferry.  Great views of the harbor and Statue of Liberty.   Don't know why people like going to trainworld.  The subway ride is the best part.  You may even have me as your train operator
Originally Posted by Santa Fe VA:

Thanks everyone for the responses so far. 

is Trainworld open on Turkey Day or do we need to go on Black Friday?!!

 

Grand Central vs Penn Station.....which one does the Amtrak from DC go to?

 

Love the Philly idea...seems like I need more than a couple of days for this trip!

 

 

Your Amtrak train will arrive at Penn Station. Grand Central Terminal now serves strictly as a terminus for commuter services to the northern suburbs located on the Hudson, Harlem and New Haven Lines and associated branches.

 

Regarding the suggestion made above about Trainworld, Trainworld's sister store, Trainland, is located in Lynbrook which is approximately a 35 minute ride east from Penn Station on the Long Island Rail Road. Over time, Trainland has become the focus of mail order operations whereas Trainland has a great retail space with lots of merchandise on display for walk-in customers. If you really want to take in a New York area train store during your visit, this may be your best bet plus you'll get to ride the LIRR as a bonus. Trainland is located close to Lynbrook station so getting to the train to the store and vice versa won't be a problem.

 

Bob 

 

I have seen a few threads about NYC during the holidays but not sure what if anything will be open during Thanksgiving day or possibly the day before or after and appreciate your input.

 

Thanksgiving in NYC is Fabulous. 

  1. IF arriving the day before, you can head uptown to the museum of Natural history and see the baloons blow up during the night. Crowds get thick from 6p-8pm.
  2. If going to the parade, bring a small foldable step ladder. The crowds get thick esp in the "TV Areas" of Columbus Circle, Times Square and Herald Square.
  3. After the parade is over around noon, you can make your way to Lord and Taylor for window display views, Grand Central Terminal for food [jr's cheesecakes and that bread bakery make me want to go NOW!], real trains, and the GCT museum display and layout. Then circle back to Sacks 5th ave, St. Patricks, and Rockerfeller center [all in the same area] BTW- I would place GCT above Reading terminal market becasue it not only has the food BUT Real and model trains as well!
  4. You may want to get tickets for that evening or the following night for Radio City Christmas Spectacular.
  5.  The next day if you stay, first make a B line to Macy's Santa Land [9th Fl] for the train displays and pics with Santa. Macy's also has window displays outside you can view after Santaland. Then head uptown to FAO Scwartz for some exotic toys & displays! [small train department though]

Finally if arriving at Penn Station, NYC, although a blaze' basement station, goto the LIRR concourse and toward the subway station. Stay to your left of the Subway entrance and get on the LIRR councourse that gets you OVER the tracks with some great big windows for viewing LIRR, AMTRAK, and NJT Trains flowing in and out of the Station [ a semi birds eye view]

 

And don't forget to watch the forum for Skip Natoli's NTYC Christmas tour guide that shows up in Early October. you want to print this out and take it with you.  Some great tips for those not familiar with the area.

 

Honestly the "Brooklyn Trainworld Trip" will get you a nice subway ride [from tunnel to EL tracks]but the neighborhood and store showroom itself is nothing to brag about as some trains are just stacked all over on shelves like a warehouse and not much in displays. You are not missing much if you do NOT do this.

 

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I echo alot of what has been said here, I go to NYC about 4 times a year (getting ready for my after Easter trip in May, I'm a church musician, I do a trip after Xmas and Easter as a gift to myself). To make the Trainworld trip better, get back on the F after you visit, take it the rest of the way to Coney Island, you'll see the Coney Island yard, one of the largest train yards and it's a subway yard! The station itself is very impressive Then take another line back in, the B and D line go over the Manhattan Bridge. Yes there's also trainland in LI, (Long Beach Branch to Lynbrook) and there's also Nassau trains, (Babylon branch to Freeport). Neither are terribly far from Manhattan, The stores will probably be closed Turkey day, so either get that in before or after. There's also the transit museum in Brooklyn accessible by a few different lines, not sure if that will be open (probably, but not on the day itself). They also have an annex in GC, which I think will have a Lionel display up and running by then.

 

I would also highly recommend Grand Central, Jerry said it was the "St. Patrick's Cathedral of trains" and as an organist and Catholic I would say that's right on. If you like seafood, I highly recommend the Oyster Bar. If you want to actually take a train from there, you could take a Harlem Line train to the Botanical Gardens if their display is up and running, the Hudson line has beautiful views of the Hudson (sit on the left side of the train in the direction of travel, you could go to Croton-Harmon, there's a LIRR yard there), and the New Haven Line is good if you want to see what the Northern part of the Northeast Corridor looks like (Amtrak joins up with MN at New Rochelle). 

 

If you want to see the real Hellgate Bridge, take the N/Q all the way to the end of the line to Astoria-Ditmars, it literally stops right under it (I always know I'm in NYC when I see it from Amtrak), you can use an Amtrak schedule and call for statuses if you want to take pictures.

 

Now while yes I concede Penn station is certainly not GC (although I didn't grow up with the old one, and for me while the new one is nothing to speak of architecturally, there is a certain "train energy" that I like in there), there is one gem: Tracks, it's a small restaurant on the LIRR concourse, right near the LIRR ticket windows. There's a bar infront, but a more quiet dining room in the back. Trains everywhere: models, placemats, photos, and the menu is small but tasty and not badly priced (for NYC at least). If you exit out the back door to the Hilton passageway, you'll see an old sign that says "PENNA RR" with an arrow.

 

I would encourage you to book the train as early as possible. If you don't know, thanksgiving week is Amtrak's busiest  travel time (the commuter railroads will also probably run extra trains, if you wanna see America taking trains, this is the week) so book early. I would assume the same for hotels. If you wanna like watch the parade from the hotel that's one thing, but if you're more flexible,  in Jersey City in NJ. 25 min ride to 33rd street on the Path train, right near Macy's. That's another thing, you can take the PATH to Hoboken, lovely station. I say, if you're into passenger trains, NYC is paradise. 

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Just a little correction.  Coney Island yard is THE biggest rapid transit yard in the world.  If you take the. F train from ditmas ave you will get a good overhead view on the right side of the train.  Get off in Coney Island and have a Nathan's famous hot dog (5 bucks a dog. Crazy ). Then take the n train back to manhattan. It goes right through the yard and you will get some views of the ny & Atlantic bay ridge branch after new Utrecht ave

Wow.....you guys are amazing with the intel about our Thanksgiving day trip.

We have priced hotel rooms (about $1000 per night with 3 night minimum for a room overlooking the parade route) and Amtrak fares from Virginia.  Probably have to stay closer to Times Square. 

 

The fares are comparable with flying but I want this to be a great experience for the family and that will start with a train ride from our small town all the way to the Big Apple.

 

 

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Santa Fe VA

The TMB model Train Club has an open house scheduled for Thanksgiving weekend. You more than welcome. Also there is the Nassau Lionel club real close by who usually has an open house same weekend. Both are on Long Island and large quality layouts with nice members. As for the hotels good luck in Manhattan during that weekend but look at hotels.com there are always bargins, just gotta look.  You might find better accommodations staying out on Long Island then using the LIRR to get in and out of the city.

 

I love this hobby as much as the next guy on this forum but if you are coming to NYC first items on the list should be Museums, Theater and Restaurants

Enjoy your trip, its a great town like no other!!!!

Steve

 

Originally Posted by OKHIKER:

I know its only April but after reading this thread I'm already looking forward to the holidays.  I've been trying to talk the Mrs. into a New York City trip for the holidays for years but she just ain't buyin' it.  I'll have to let her read this thread. 

You may want to consider going either in between Christmas and New Years, or just have New Years, most everything will still be up (except the Macy's train display). Really alot of what has been suggested, outside of the seasonal train displays, is good for any train or O gauge enthusiast looking to travel to NYC at any time of the year. After all, it is where Lionel was headquartered and the REAL **** Gate bridge is.

Just a quick update.  We booked our Amtrak tickets last month going directly from our small town in Virginia all the way to NYC.  Made hotel reservation 2 blocks from Herald Square so we only have a quick walk to the parade on Thanksgiving morning. 

 

Now just need to find a place to have a Turkey dinner and book some show tickets that will be appropriate for teenagers. 

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Speaking as a Ex Virginian and currently a New Yorker. Something that should not be missed is the Lionel layout at the Transit Museum in Grand Central. It hasn't been mentioned specifically in this thread but it has come close. It would be a shame to go there and not see it. 

 

Also I fabricate store displays professionally here in the city and by Thanksgiving they should be up. Now we are in early planning but it is coming up fast. So speaking out of self interest. Go see the windows. 

 

The Animated windows.Macy's has two sets. The 2014 windows are on Broadway and the "Yes Virginia" windows are on 32 street. The broadway windows are new every year. Last year they won the big display award. The 32 st windows are the same for several years. The "Yes Virginia" windows replaced the Miracle on 32 st windows after a good 10 year run.  

 

Sak's, Lord and Taylor, Bloomingdales all have animated windows as well. Each store has a style and size of figure body that they use every year so one could tell from a photo what store had what display. Surprisingly one company makes most of the animated displays. Spaeth. They have been doing this since the 50's and they also do the animated displays for stores outside of the city as well. For instance I freelanced a refurb for them on Hudson' Bay Co. Windows a few years back and we had them set up in NYC in April.

 

Bergdorf Goodmans windows are always opulent, over the top and amazing. Anthropologies windows are always great especially the Rockefeller Center Flagship store. Four years ago Anthropologie had a MTH standard gauge girls train in the window For all the tourist waiting to see the Rockettes to admire. I wonder who put that there.

 

Barney's windows are always weird and off beat/ controversial. Henri Bendel's windows and interiors are usually very nice as are the various Ralph Lauren locations.

 

So yes come to the city and take in the Store windows.Night time is the best to see them. They are all like little theater stages offered free to anybody Walking by.  Remember J.C. Lionel started making His trains as a store display and New York City is one of the last places this art is still being done to any degree in this country.

Originally Posted by Santa Fe VA:

Just a quick update.  We booked our Amtrak tickets last month going directly from our small town in Virginia all the way to NYC.  Made hotel reservation 2 blocks from Herald Square so we only have a quick walk to the parade on Thanksgiving morning. 

 

Now just need to find a place to have a Turkey dinner and book some show tickets that will be appropriate for teenagers. 

If all else fails, Carnagie Deli on 7th Ave and 55th Street (near the theatre district) has gargantuan open-faced turkey sandwiches that could feed 3-4 people. No one leaves hungry from Carnagie Deli. 

Originally Posted by TheBigCrabCake:
Originally Posted by Santa Fe VA:

Just a quick update.  We booked our Amtrak tickets last month going directly from our small town in Virginia all the way to NYC.  Made hotel reservation 2 blocks from Herald Square so we only have a quick walk to the parade on Thanksgiving morning. 

 

Now just need to find a place to have a Turkey dinner and book some show tickets that will be appropriate for teenagers. 

If all else fails, Carnagie Deli on 7th Ave and 55th Street (near the theatre district) has gargantuan open-faced turkey sandwiches that could feed 3-4 people. No one leaves hungry from Carnagie Deli. 

I would second Carnagie Deli. The corned beef and pastromie arn't bag ether. Like Big Crab Cake says one sandwich will feed multiple people.

Brad

Thanks for the tips  (window seat/right side---check!). 

Not sure about the shows.....my daughter loved Les Miserables movie but my wife really wants us to see Wicked. 

 

Except for amusement parks or some excursion lines, have not ridden a train since I was 10 going from England to Scotland.  Really looking forward to it.

My wife and I have visited NYC every Christmas and Mother's day for the last 5 Years.  Last year we spent almost a week at the Waldorf, a nice walk to GCS.  I think we went there almost every day.  Great food there for sure.  One other place we enjoy is Central Park.  There are carriage rides around the park.  We also like the touring bus.  Hop on hop off.  It's great because you can get a look at things without watching where you're walking.  The streets and sidewalks are crowded and moving.  

Hmmm, maybe Thanksgiving is a good idea.  Not so cold too.

Have fun

Parade tip: The whole parade is only about 45 minutes to an hour. The closer you are to Macys the slower is goes. Also the closer you are to Macys the music/sound will go off mode because they don't want to interfere with the TV broadcast. If you watch the parade from further uptown lets says 45th-49th or further north you go you'll be done in an hour or less. Depending on where you are standing the crowd could be 8-10 deep so give yourself plenty of time to find some real estate to stand.

 

rat

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Originally Posted by Santa Fe VA:

Thanks for the tips  (window seat/right side---check!). 

Not sure about the shows.....my daughter loved Les Miserables movie but my wife really wants us to see Wicked. 

 

Except for amusement parks or some excursion lines, have not ridden a train since I was 10 going from England to Scotland.  Really looking forward to it.

Speaking of shows, we are going up to NYC the weekend before Thanksgiving to see A Delicate Balance with John Lithgow and Glenn Close.

 

http://www.newyork.com/article...g-to-broadway-25889/

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