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A rerun with another road number for the MTH C-16 Docksider. For whatever reason, MTH did three runs of the B&O scheme and kept using the same number, 97. MTH could have done 96, 98 and 99, as well. (No. 98 would have made the most sense as a second number, given that both 97 and 98 worked their whole lives in their original configuration as saddle-tank switchers.)

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A scale Santa Fe Hudson by Lionel or MTH

Mth did one back in 2004 MT 20- 3135-1, and 2006 , MT 20-3144-1

(beautiful engine)

Lionel has done some compressed Santa Fe "like" lettered ones. ( one of my favorite ones "warhorse 6-18062, fantastic sound)

(Not everybody can run an ATSF Northern...a Hudson gets us down to a reasonable 0-42 curve)

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justakid posted:

A scale Santa Fe Hudson by Lionel or MTH

Mth did one back in 2004 MT 20- 3135-1, and 2006 , MT 20-3144-1

(beautiful engine)

Lionel has done some compressed Santa Fe "like" lettered ones. ( one of my favorite ones "warhorse 6-18062, fantastic sound)

(Not everybody can run an ATSF Northern...a Hudson gets us down to a reasonable 0-42 curve)

I have a 20-135-1. It's a beautiful locomotive. MTH did reissue these with PS3 about 7 years ago:

https://mthtrains.com/20-3476-1

https://mthtrains.com/20-3475-1

Balshis posted:
Dennis LaGrua posted:

Looking at the train market, we probably will not see much in the way of completely new designs in the coming years. Using existing tooling to run engines and rolling stock in different colors and road names seems logical.  Having said that I'd like to see more representation of the Eastern Coal Roads....CNJ, LVRR, Lackawanna, Erie, Reading and some of the smaller operating accessories that can fit on a layout better than the standard large ones.

Agree 100%, Dennis.

--John

Maybe for MTH but recently Lionel has proven otherwise.

Lionel EMD E7 in New York Central's early Beauty Queen paint scheme. 3rd Rail has done them (hard to find) and MTH did an E6 like this but NYC never had E6's and Scott doesn't seem too hot to do them again. First one to do one gets my money.

The current stand in.

MTH looks like they are going to do my other suggestion. The 44 Tonner lettered for Kodak. Thank you Mike.

Pete

 

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Redshirt214 posted:

Great responses all! Now that I think of it, I’d love to see more small accessories, and it wouldn’t hurt to see Lionel reissue some of the later postwar accessories like that piggyback loading/unloading platform which would go well on both modern and transition era layouts. I too would like to see more Eastern road names out there, especially when it comes to passenger cars and passenger sets. And maybe something Gulf, Mobile, & Ohio? I don’t recall ever seeing a car in their scheme before.

That is basically what I have been saying about accessories. Most of the Lionel designs take up way too much real estate, but if you look at the American Flyer/Lionel/MTH reissues they fit almost any layout nicely. Accessories like the Flyer Barrel loader, Coaling tower, and Sawmill look good on an O gauge layout, easily fit in smaller spaces and are realistic. If MTH or Lionel decides to run these again, I would say please make them for conventional operation.

Dennis LaGrua posted:
Redshirt214 posted:

Great responses all! Now that I think of it, I’d love to see more small accessories, and it wouldn’t hurt to see Lionel reissue some of the later postwar accessories like that piggyback loading/unloading platform which would go well on both modern and transition era layouts. I too would like to see more Eastern road names out there, especially when it comes to passenger cars and passenger sets. And maybe something Gulf, Mobile, & Ohio? I don’t recall ever seeing a car in their scheme before.

That is basically what I have been saying about accessories. Most of the Lionel designs take up way too much real estate, but if you look at the American Flyer/Lionel/MTH reissues they fit almost any layout nicely. Accessories like the Flyer Barrel loader, Coaling tower, and Sawmill look good on an O gauge layout, easily fit in smaller spaces and are realistic. If MTH or Lionel decides to run these again, I would say please make them for conventional operation.

I agree with the conventional option.  I actually shied away from a couple lionel accessories because I didn't want to bother with modifying the plug and play / track power connections.  I like being able to have accessories activated by buttons when walking around the track.

The new MTH catalog has a Peoria & Eastern Geep.  I want more lesser known names like that.  Columbus & Greenville, Algoma Central, Chicago & Eastern Illinois come to mind.  

I want one loco, 3 to 4 cars to represent late 60’s passenger trains OR mixed trains!  An E8, F3, or GP9 would be the power.

RPO cars in Railking.

For RK passenger cars with colored stripes, extend the paint across the door instead of stopping before the door.

A new proposal as the result of looking through some NKP loc rosters last night

FM “Baby Trainmaster” (Lionel did some ca 2002 or so, forget the exact model number FM did great locos but I’d hate to be the guy trying to order parts for them and remember their complex designations), in the early NKP diesel scheme. It’s an unusual prototype in a lovely scheme and I think people would buy the heck of it.

Also, it would be interesting to see Wabash/Ann Arbor FAs in a Lioncheif set, it would be a nice nod to the Michigan history Lionel has and mentions of car ferry operations would make good ad copy.

It would be interesting to see Lionel merge the tank portion of the PW style operating water tower with the legs of the gantry crane, so that loco tenders could be spotted underneath the tower and not so much layout space given over to locomotive servicing.

A report of the oringinal X2478 PRR Auto double door boxcar from the prewar/early postwar would be neat, maybe done from ex-Kline molds... maybe with a model of a 1941 Ford stuffed inside it? 

Another thought is some kind of scale boxcar only with modified roof to be removable and one of those Sears catalog houses stuffed inside? One of my history colleagues did a story with an illustration of that, and if by some wonder the house could be removed from the car and assembled I think people would be really wowed.

 

It's about time both MTH and Lionel made some conventional engines with lights and a whistle, this would keep prices down and make trains more afforable for the next generation to get started in model railroadinkg. Some others would buy engines like this and non-powered equipment to show on their layouts and shelves.  A  win-win for buyers and sellers.

Jack 

falconservice posted:

Lionel finally has put the short ACF Center Flow, 3560 Cu Ft., 3-bay covered hopper back into production with the LionScale line. Now they need to get around to making the real railroad schemes of ARR ALASKA , C&O for Progress, DMIR MISSABE, ICG ILLINOIS CENTRAL GULF.

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DMIR 5019 dsa MISSABE ACF CENTER FLOW hopper

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Andrew

Falcon Service

Ha! I didn't know this was a real car I thought lionel just made it stubby to go around tight curves! I have a few of these they're perfect for a small, scale layout. I'm glad they're making them again.

GregR posted:

Via Rail Canada set of blue and yellow striped 60 foot passenger cars with matching Alco FA or F7 diesels. 

Hi Greg...I picked up a couple Via diesels modelled with an early paint scheme (had the CN logo on the nose still). 

Any idea who did these or where they came from?  Might be a one off. I think the yellow/blue separation line  below the cab should have been angled.

Just curious as its been difficult to find any others  

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Larry Mullen posted:

I would love to see them make PRR M1b #6755, as seen in Strasburg.  They have made the M1a a couple of times as well as the J1.  The last M1b was 2008, I think.

A Legacy Hudson would also be nice, in my opinion.

They did that with PS2. One went up for auction this past Friday on Stout auctions. Why #6755? That number has been used several times on M1's from Weaver to MTH to Lionel scale models. There are other road numbers to use!

Atlas, Bachmann(from K-Line), Lionel and MTH all have the O scale highly-detailed F7 A-units. They can make more EMD F7 diesel-electric locomotive railroad paint schemes. One railroad in particular they have not gotten around to producing is the Soo Line. The Soo Line had EMD F7 A-units in the 1950's paint scheme and the 1960's paint scheme.  

SOO F3 2230-A SOO 757SOO 2202-A F7A Passenger Train Locomotive Engine SOO LINE RAILROAD Winter Snow Ice Postcard

Andrew

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PikeBayJJ posted:
GregR posted:

Via Rail Canada set of blue and yellow striped 60 foot passenger cars with matching Alco FA or F7 diesels. 

Hi Greg...I picked up a couple Via diesels modelled with an early paint scheme (had the CN logo on the nose still). 

Any idea who did these or where they came from?  Might be a one off. I think the yellow/blue separation line  below the cab should have been angled.

Just curious as its been difficult to find any others  

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Given the visible battery cover under the lead unit, these are repainted postwar units.  The VIA units with the CN worm did have an angle:

VIA-CN

As VIA didn't have F3's, only FP7's and FP9's (which are 4' longer than a standard F,) I wouldn't worry about the lack of an angle on the paint.

Rusty

 

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