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I recently joined a local train club, and was excited to dig out of storage a Lionel S2 Turbine that I acquired a few years ago at auction.  The box was very sun-faded, but the engine inside looked new.  I had a K-Line 120W transformer (chopped sine wave) attached to the test track.  Everything worked great, except the RailSounds 1.  It makes that strange faint bong sound when power is first applied, then nothing.  I located the volume screw on the tender bottom, and turned it both ways; still nothing more.

In case the chopped sine wave was causing the problems, I dug out a Lionel 1033 transformer.  Almost the same, except the faint bong sound when it is first powered up is now gone, too.

I am looking for any suggestions on (1) troubleshooting/fixing the RailSounds 1 as installed; or (2) identifying the alternatives. 

The train club runs mostly conventionally, with MTH 4000 power and block controls, although we are set up to run TMCC/Legacy when needed.  I checked out the Dallee Electonics site, and saw diesels, electrics, and steam, but no turbine sounds ...

Thanks for any insights,

David

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No, neither the whistle nor the bell work, to answer your question, Sid.

Yes, it is surprising that board would be available!  I would like to restore the factory sounds if possible.  I am frankly curious to hear and enjoy what was state-of-the-art when this engine was made.  Around 1990?

A 30-year-old speaker would probably be fairly dried out and shot, so probably a good idea to replace it, anyway, then see if anything comes out of it - thanks for the suggestion, Gilly! 

It looks like the speaker comes with the Board assembly - there is no separate part number I can see on the parts diagram on the Lionel parts site.  Does anyone know the right speaker to order?  8 ohms or 4?

Thanks for all of the helpful responses and suggestions so far.

David

David98 posted:

No, neither the whistle nor the bell work, to answer your question, Sid.

Yes, it is surprising that board would be available!  I would like to restore the factory sounds if possible.  I am frankly curious to hear and enjoy what was state-of-the-art when this engine was made.  Around 1990?

A 30-year-old speaker would probably be fairly dried out and shot, so probably a good idea to replace it, anyway, then see if anything comes out of it - thanks for the suggestion, Gilly! 

It looks like the speaker comes with the Board assembly - there is no separate part number I can see on the parts diagram on the Lionel parts site.  Does anyone know the right speaker to order?  8 ohms or 4?

Thanks for all of the helpful responses and suggestions so far.

David

If you would like to hear the trains sounds. I have a video on my YouTube channel if you need any kind of reference. 

https://www.youtube.com/channe...OjqfRGclkyjDbY-CXpPg

 

David98 posted:

No, neither the whistle nor the bell work, to answer your question, Sid.

Yes, it is surprising that board would be available!  I would like to restore the factory sounds if possible.  I am frankly curious to hear and enjoy what was state-of-the-art when this engine was made.  Around 1990?

A 30-year-old speaker would probably be fairly dried out and shot, so probably a good idea to replace it, anyway, then see if anything comes out of it - thanks for the suggestion, Gilly! 

It looks like the speaker comes with the Board assembly - there is no separate part number I can see on the parts diagram on the Lionel parts site.  Does anyone know the right speaker to order?  8 ohms or 4?

Thanks for all of the helpful responses and suggestions so far.

David

Could we get a picture of the inside of the tender?

Well, I am told it is good to keep an open mind.  So ... after listening to the original RailSounds on YouTube, viewing/hearing Norm Charbonneau's upgraded S2 on You Tube, and listening to the ERR Turbine Sounds file using the link that GunRunner John kindly provided -- and finding 1 ERR Turbine Commander left in stock (after reportedly being discontinued) at a supplier I sometimes use -- IMG_4476IMG_4477IMG_4478IMG_4479IMG_4480

 

I put my order in!  Looks like the ERR package includes a speaker, as well!

Still want to tinker and see if I can get the original system to work, just to increase my knowledge base - I have wired electric, phone, and internet service in homes, but am new to working on electronics. 

But I have been meaning to learn how to install an ERR kit for some time, and this particular engine seems to be worth it, and the change in sound quality seems to be quite marked, so also worth the trouble.  Also ordered an ERR electric sound kit while I was at it, for a scale GG1 that is now known as Silent Bob.

Here are photos requested of inside the tender.

So thanks to all for their input so far.  Not sure if his thread may evolve into an ERR install project, or if there is already one out there that covers this ground?

David

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David98 posted:

Well, I am told it is good to keep an open mind.  So ... after listening to the original RailSounds on YouTube, viewing/hearing Norm Charbonneau's upgraded S2 on You Tube, and listening to the ERR Turbine Sounds file using the link that GunRunner John kindly provided -- and finding 1 ERR Turbine Commander left in stock (after reportedly being discontinued) at a supplier I sometimes use -- IMG_4476IMG_4477IMG_4478IMG_4479IMG_4480

 

I put my order in!  Looks like the ERR package includes a speaker, as well!

Still want to tinker and see if I can get the original system to work, just to increase my knowledge base - I have wired electric, phone, and internet service in homes, but am new to working on electronics. 

But I have been meaning to learn how to install an ERR kit for some time, and this particular engine seems to be worth it, and the change in sound quality seems to be quite marked, so also worth the trouble.  Also ordered an ERR electric sound kit while I was at it, for a scale GG1 that is now known as Silent Bob.

Here are photos requested of inside the tender.

So thanks to all for their input so far.  Not sure if his thread may evolve into an ERR install project, or if there is already one out there that covers this ground?

David

I would recommend checking all connections for anything loose, especially speaker and volume pot connections.

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