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It's just a fact of life that whenever something, whether it's a car or an iPod, comes along as a new version, the older version becomes obsolete. The same goes with electronics in trains.

 

Most people I see seem to upgrade older trains with new sounds and control. Others, including myself, try to hold onto the original sounds as long as possible for nostalgia or preference.

 

Though I'm very concerned how these older electronics will hold up 50 years from now, or longer. Will they all eventually break and stop working? I know plenty of things do, like VCR's, but I have had quite a few TV's that held up for 20 years or so working relatively alright.

 

I have numerous Lionel engines with RailSounds 1.0 and 2 that are already 20 years old or more. I've only had to replace one RS1.0 board in my experience, and I happened to have an exact replacement fortunately from a good friend who was updating one of his RS1.0 engines. These engines, along with ones having everything from Mighty Sound of Steam to Proto 1.0, may eventually stop working at all overtime, but of course with the continually improving electronics, manufacturers won't supply for the older technology.

 

Am I the only one who worries about this in the back of the mind?

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Originally Posted by Mikado 4501:

It's just a fact of life that whenever something, whether it's a car or an iPod, comes along as a new version, the older version becomes obsolete. The same goes with electronics in trains.

 

Most people I see seem to upgrade older trains with new sounds and control. Others, including myself, try to hold onto the original sounds for nostalgia or preference.

 

Though I'm very concerned how these older electronics will hold up 50 years from now, or longer. Will they all eventually break and stop working? I know plenty of things do, like VCR's, but I have had quite a few TV's that held up for 20 years or so working relatively alright.

 

I have numerous Lionel engines with RailSounds 1.0 and 2 that are already 20 years old or more. I've only had to replace one RS1.0 board in my experience, and I happened to have an exact replacement fortunately from a good friend who was updating one of his RS1.0 engines. These engines, along with ones having everything from Mighty Sound of Steam to Proto 1.0, may eventually stop working at all overtime.

 

Am I the only one who worries about this in the back of the mind?

As with any man made item, when it stops working, and parts are no longer available, you need to be able to manufacture your own replacement parts, or perform an upgrade to new, different components in order to keep your item operating.  Perhaps this is not the answer you are seeking, but, it is true of many of the things we use in our life-times.

Originally Posted by Mikado 4501:
It's just a fact of life that whenever something, whether it's a car or an iPod, comes along as a new version, the older version becomes obsolete. The same goes with electronics in trains.

I don't consider this the same kind of obsolete. When an iPod's battery conks out, you have to replace the entire unit--the battery is not user-replaceable (there are ways of getting in there, but they're best suited to technicians with specific tools, and some phones even make it completely impossible to replace the battery--it's actually glued to the chassis), so at best it can only function tethered to a wall wart.

 

If the boards in a modern O-Gauge loco blow out, there are folks around who can repair the boards. It's just a different skill-set (before any postwar aficionados chime in, ask yourself how many average folks can disassemble/reassemble/adjust an electro-mechanical E-unit?). For those failures that cannot be repaired due to custom-programmed IC's, the entire board can be replaced. Although in some cases it's not economically feasible to put new guts in, it's almost never a case of a locomotive having no other option but retirement--just an owner willing to go only so far to get it running.

 

---PCJ

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So far, fingers crossed, I have found these "new-fangled" locos to be pretty robust,

at least in terms of age. None of my stuff has had the wheels run off of it - when I was

a kid I had one 2055 Hudson and a Burro crane (and a kid's imagination), so they got run a lot.

 

With only rare exceptions, when I have asked a modern loco to crank up and go, it has,

even after months on the layout without moving, or even years on a shelf in the house.

MTH (no bash intended) electronics have seemed less sturdy than Lionel-based

boards, but have a MUCH better smoke-unit devices. (That may not hold true, now.)

My layout is in a 12X24 building in the back yard which is neither heated nor cooled

unless I am using it. Which reminds me - I need to go put another coat of paint on that

3rd Rail Dash-9 that I'm accosting.

 

So, I do "worry", but my track (pun) record with this stuff is, so far, pretty good.

 

Word of advice: never leave your layout physically plugged in to the house current (or your DSL, etc, cable) when it is not being used. Surges, thunderstorms and computers

on flanged wheels, y'know.

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