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Tell me about it..on the loco I just kitbashed, original screws, two of them, hit the

floor and quickly scrurried away into hiding.  After several days I was able to find

metric screws to replace them and finish the job.  They always bounce an illogical

direction and then get under something so you are on your nose with a flashlight

trying to peer under a heavy cabinet you don't want to have to move.

One thing that has helped me to alleviate this problem is that I started putting a white hand size bath towel on my work bench.  I put my cutting board etc. on top of the towel.  This has stopped a lot of stuff that I drop from bouncing from the bench to the floor.  The towel almost always catches it.  I can also see small black screws and other parts against the white towel.

 

If something goes directly to the floor it is lost - just like before.

 

Joe

 

I have a large rare earth magnet for ferrous parts that hit the floor but I keep some nylons around in case I drop a small not magnetic part and I put the nylon over the end of the vacuum hose and run it over the search area to find the part. The nylon will catch all the tiny parts
Originally Posted by Matt Makens:
I have a large rare earth magnet for ferrous parts that hit the floor but I keep some nylons around in case I drop a small not magnetic part and I put the nylon over the end of the vacuum hose and run it over the search area to find the part. The nylon will catch all the tiny parts

Clever idea! Thanks for the tip, Matt.

 

Tomlinson Run RR

Yes, I also feel that the Earth literally swallows up lost parts. But sometimes I get surprised when I discover that magnetraction axles of an engine I've been working on had swallowed the part and it took hours to realize that. How much time working on a project is spent looking for "lost/dropped" parts?  Topic for another thread....

 

Roger

I think some parts defy the general laws of normal physics. For example, a very tiny screw with the mass of some fraction of a gram should not be able to generate enough kinetic energy falling from table height to a concrete floor to travel 5 or 6 feet from its initial point of floor contact, but sometimes they do.

 

Or maybe unbeknownst to me I pick up the offending screw on my shoe and shuffle it

to ridiculous lengths from the table.

 

I'm just glad to know I'm not the only one to be plaqued by this immutable law.

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All true, all true.

 

For a while I thought that these parts somehow entered an alternate universe in their fall, like the place that socks go when they disappear in the clothes dryer.....

 

However, the best advice I came across was to sweep the floor under and around the workbench squeaky clean before the work. Then make sure you have a flashlight handy. When said part falls and bounces, the flashlight beam shone along the floor will often show it up with a nice long shadow. I've rescued a few miniscule bits this way.

I have dropped parts, either from a train or a when I'm in the garage working on my car. Look high and low, and usually end up getting another part, only to miraculously discover the original part sitting in plain site. Happens with dropped tools as well. This firmly makes me believe someone up there is having fun at my expense.

Originally Posted by tjl824:
I usually spend half the time of rebuilding something looking for parts on the floor. I've been meaning to paint the basement floor white around the bench so the parts don't blend into the concrete

Trevor

Trevor, be absolutely sure you paint a 100 foot radius around the bench.  You may have a chance then of finding the missing screw.  I have read where they only have the ability to travel 96 feet before running out of rolling/bouncing ability.  

Originally Posted by C W Burfle:

I find that sweeping the floor with a flashlight beam more or less parallel to the floor with usually help to locate a missing part.
A few months ago I spring went flying from one of my tools. Still looking for that. Until its found, the tool is kaput.

When small springs hit the floor, they can bounce clear into the stratosphere, right through walls and everything.  

Originally Posted by 86TA355SR:

Try spending 20 mins making a brass part...cutting...filing...finishing...

 

Then drop it, never to be seen again.

 

Well, they are seen again.... Right after you've made the 2nd part, and have it installed, is when you will locate the original by stepping on it and drawing blood. 

 

Magnets are nice but when parts are non-ferrous...........

Originally Posted by J Daddy:
Thats right. Every work bench has a black hole. Drop one critical part and its gravitational pull will suck it to the dark abyss forever.

Actually, they've been reappearing on Ceres.  The larger bright spot are metal parts, the smaller are plastic and wood parts:

 

ceres

Or so say ancient model railroad theorists...

 

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Originally Posted by Firewood:

All true, all true.

 

For a while I thought that these parts somehow entered an alternate universe in their fall, like the place that socks go when they disappear in the clothes dryer.....

That is exactly correct.  And the inhabitants of that parallel world are a treacherous lot, who refuse to return the small parts until they are no longer needed.

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Matt Makens:
Like I said, the nylon over the vacuum hose works amazing for the non ferrous(magnetic) parts. You will also pick up the parts you weren't missing with this technique
Matt, great idea, but I've got around 80 sq. ft. around my corner table for the parts to hide. Some of it under counters and the table with machinery tucked away and other impossible situations, It would take a half hour or more to explore with a hose and then only the easy spaces. I wish I could train one of the squirrels on my property to sit with me to watch and fetch dropped parts.
 

 

Originally Posted by pennsydave:

I have an apron that is worn around my waist and the bottom is attached to the underside of the workbench providing a hammock to catch dropped parts.  It works well. However you do have to take the time to wear the apron!  Now where is that darn thing? 

I tried one of these, works great until you get a phone call or yell from the Mrs and forget you have it tied into the workbench.

Originally Posted by J Daddy:
Originally Posted by pennsydave:

I have an apron that is worn around my waist and the bottom is attached to the underside of the workbench providing a hammock to catch dropped parts.  It works well. However you do have to take the time to wear the apron!  Now where is that darn thing? 

I tried one of these, works great until you get a phone call or yell from the Mrs and forget you have it tied into the workbench.

=Chuckle= I can imagine -- especially if you have dropped parts sitting in it when you get up to take that call. :-}

Magnets are great until the part is not ferrous, natch.

 

And, to prove it's Mastery over Man, the Universe had me drop an important screw the other day. I'm upgrading an MTH Dreyfuss to ERR Cruise Commander, and, of course, the screw was...Nylon...for the insulated tender shell...it was white (I have black ones)...the vinyl floor is essentially...white.

 

I didn't even look. (OK, a quick flashlight search; nada.)

 

The screw is now where all such parts (plus innumerable non-matching socks) and Lost Innocence go.

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